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Best Coast wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 20:08 I expect a close fight that could go either way the longer it lasts. But I think Wilder will try to catch Fury in the early rounds before he gets warmed up.

Even though it was much earlier in his career, the times that Fury got knocked down it was always in the early rounds. Granted, Tyson wasnt badly hurt either time but neither of the guys who dropped him hit as hard as Wilder does.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:52
Thanks for putting these clips up.

I think it's worth mentioning that not long after the Cunningham fight Fury switched to a far more awkward and slippery style that he's maintained ever since. He rarely stands flat footed anymore preferring to fight on the back foot, and anyone seeking to knock him out will have to go looking for him. It's no fluke he's hardly taken a serious shot since then.

On the other hand, this current fleet footed style of Fury's also means any future knockouts by him are also highly unlikely too despite whatever he says to the contrary.

Deontay Wilder is certainly quick enough and fast enough to stop Fury but he will have to catch him first because it's unlikely that we will see Fury walking onto a knockdown punch anymore unless Wilder gets very cute indeed.

In fact I'm sure Klitschko would also have dismantled him if he hadn't waited til the 10th round to start fighting. Fury knew it too, hence no rematch. Whatever he may say, it's clear that Tyson Fury is an extremely cautious boxer nowadays.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:52

Best Coast wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 20:08 I expect a close fight that could go either way the longer it lasts. But I think Wilder will try to catch Fury in the early rounds before he gets warmed up.

Even though it was much earlier in his career, the times that Fury got knocked down it was always in the early rounds. Granted, Tyson wasnt badly hurt either time but neither of the guys who dropped him hit as hard as Wilder does.

Thanks for putting these clips up.

I think it's worth mentioning that not long after the Cunningham fight Fury switched to a far more awkward and slippery style that he's maintained ever since. He rarely stands flat footed anymore preferring to fight on the back foot, and anyone seeking to knock him out will have to go looking for him. It's no fluke he's hardly taken a serious shot since then.

On the other hand, this current fleet footed style of Fury's also means any future knockouts by him are also highly unlikely too despite whatever he says to the contrary.

Deontay Wilder is certainly quick enough and fast enough to stop Fury but he will have to catch him first because it's unlikely that we will see Fury walking onto a knockdown punch anymore unless Wilder gets very cute indeed.

In fact I'm sure Klitschko would also have dismantled him if he hadn't waited til the 10th round to start fighting. Fury knew it too, hence no rematch. Whatever he may say, it's clear that Tyson Fury is an extremely cautious boxer nowadays.

jezzamundo wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 00:40 Were this fight to have taken place immediately after Fury's with over Wlad, I'd have no problem picking the big Brit. Now Tyson has battled mental health issues, dug use, obesity and is only two fights into his return. Much like in the fight of the century, it seems unlikely that Fury will be all that he was. That said, if a boxing match breaks out, Wilder won't have more than a puncher's chance. At this point I think it's a 60:40 fight in Wilder's favour - Fury is hard to hit clean but Wilder only has to do it once.

digzee wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 09:48

jezzamundo wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 00:40 Were this fight to have taken place immediately after Fury's with over Wlad, I'd have no problem picking the big Brit. Now Tyson has battled mental health issues, dug use, obesity and is only two fights into his return. Much like in the fight of the century, it seems unlikely that Fury will be all that he was. That said, if a boxing match breaks out, Wilder won't have more than a puncher's chance. At this point I think it's a 60:40 fight in Wilder's favour - Fury is hard to hit clean but Wilder only has to do it once.

Wilder wouldn't have fought that version of Fury though as he knew he was too good, Fury went to Wilders backyard and called him out in the ring after his fight but Wilder didn't make any offers at that time. Wilder has played a blinder getting Fury when he's nowhere near his best, he's gonna have an easy nights work and knock him out and make out like its an amazing win.

jezzamundo wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 00:40 Were this fight to have taken place immediately after Fury's with over Wlad, I'd have no problem picking the big Brit. Now Tyson has battled mental health issues, dug use, obesity and is only two fights into his return. Much like in the fight of the century, it seems unlikely that Fury will be all that he was. That said, if a boxing match breaks out, Wilder won't have more than a puncher's chance. At this point I think it's a 60:40 fight in Wilder's favour - Fury is hard to hit clean but Wilder only has to do it once.

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 14:59 Kevin "Kingpin" Johnson is now well past his best and considered suitable 'food' for 20 year old Daniel Dubois. He is not so far past his best that he couldn't stop Pianeta in 7 rounds recently though.

That should give you a good indication as to how much of a threat Pianeta was likely to pose to Tyson Fury, and I wouldn't read too much into his triumph if I were you.

Pianeta managed to hit Fury a few times. I 'm sure the same feat will not prove to be beyond Deontay's capabilities. The difference is - unlike Mr. Piano-shifter when Deontay hits them they tend to stay hit.

DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 15:11

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 14:59 Kevin "Kingpin" Johnson is now well past his best and considered suitable 'food' for 20 year old Daniel Dubois. He is not so far past his best that he couldn't stop Pianeta in 7 rounds recently though.

That should give you a good indication as to how much of a threat Pianeta was likely to pose to Tyson Fury, and I wouldn't read too much into his triumph if I were you.

Pianeta managed to hit Fury a few times. I 'm sure the same feat will not prove to be beyond Deontay's capabilities. The difference is - unlike Mr. Piano-shifter when Deontay hits them they tend to stay hit.

Seferi was no more dangerous, than Pianeta, still Fury wasn't that convincing against him. Of course, Wilder is better, than both of them together, but Fury is likely to be ready.

candyslim wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 02:24

DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 15:11

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 14:59 Kevin "Kingpin" Johnson is now well past his best and considered suitable 'food' for 20 year old Daniel Dubois. He is not so far past his best that he couldn't stop Pianeta in 7 rounds recently though.

That should give you a good indication as to how much of a threat Pianeta was likely to pose to Tyson Fury, and I wouldn't read too much into his triumph if I were you.

Pianeta managed to hit Fury a few times. I 'm sure the same feat will not prove to be beyond Deontay's capabilities. The difference is - unlike Mr. Piano-shifter when Deontay hits them they tend to stay hit.

Seferi was no more dangerous, than Pianeta, still Fury wasn't that convincing against him. Of course, Wilder is better, than both of them together, but Fury is likely to be ready.

I really don't know where your faith comes from but I hope you are right. It should be a pick 'em fight and I don't want to see it reduced to a mismatch because it's been rushed into.

candyslim wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 15:49 Bermane Stiverne didn't have a warm up before his challenge ( stop sniggering when I say 'challenge' ) against Wilder, but even he might have looked good against Pianeta.

Probably not actually, but I'm sure you get the point I'm trying to make. Just because Francesco "Heavy bag" Pianeta made Fury look semi-decent, doesn't mean Deontay won't dismantle him in the time it takes to utter the words "USS Cunningham".