Deontay Wilder will DO it

[Sequitorian]

Y'all should thank him, Evander ...

[dickbelden]

Where's your link to that? Everything I've seen shows odds about even or favoring Fury.


I. M. formerly known as x2x

Read my previous post in this thread. That contains the link.

Ladbrokes were impressed with Fury's performance last weekend and gave him a decent chance of beating Wilder, which is reflected by their odds.

However, 84% of punters disagree and are still placing bets on Wilder.

Whilst it seems that the bookmakers rate Fury's chances, resulting in the odds being short, the vast majority of punters are still placing their bets on Wilder.

I saw your ladbrokes link. I don't know what ladbrokes is but the odds it shows look unrealistic and out of line with odds elsewhere. For instance it shows Miller a 25 to 1 favorite over Adamek! Personally i favor Fury vs. Wilder. I gave some of my reasons on the fury is a bum now? thread


I. M. formerly known as x2x

FYI---as of now ladbrokes' midpoints---miller 17-1 over adamek---& wilder 6-5 over fury

[caldo2025]

Everyone of Fury-Joshua-Wilder trio will become the best HW of the 21st century, if he beats the other two. However, Lewis was also competing in the early 00s, so probably it's a tourney for #2.

How can you be so high on Fury? If you’re a homer then I can understand that. But if not, can I ask what is it about Fury that you like so much? Great actor and soundpiece but the only attribute that I can see is that he’s big. If Fury was a 147 pounder with his current boxing ability he’d be making my sandwich at Subway this afternoon.

What’s so good about Fury? I’m asking honestly and not being fresh.

Fury is obviously a talented and skillful boxer. He's big, but he is very fast and mobile for his size. He's also a smart boxer, he can be elusive. I don't know, how you judge his current state. He faced 2 lower level opponents after his comeback. In the first fight he looked crappy, cause he was rusted. But in his recent fight he looked ok, he was in about the same shape in the bouts prior to Klitschko fight.

I'm assuming that you guys are European? I'm American so we've really only witnessed the one fight with Wlad which still burns my eyes. What an awful fight that was. So admittedly, i could be undervaluing his ability and his chances with Wilder.

Do you really think that Fury and Wilder will even happen though? Fury's opponents have been carefully selected to this point so picking a fight with Wilder so soon on his comeback trail seems a bit careless to me. Wilder is a beast. His technique is junk but there's no doubting the guys heart and power. I see this being one of those postponement after postponement type situations that he and BJS seem to love so much.

[DrDuke]

How can you be so high on Fury? If you’re a homer then I can understand that. But if not, can I ask what is it about Fury that you like so much? Great actor and soundpiece but the only attribute that I can see is that he’s big. If Fury was a 147 pounder with his current boxing ability he’d be making my sandwich at Subway this afternoon.

What’s so good about Fury? I’m asking honestly and not being fresh.

Fury is obviously a talented and skillful boxer. He's big, but he is very fast and mobile for his size. He's also a smart boxer, he can be elusive. I don't know, how you judge his current state. He faced 2 lower level opponents after his comeback. In the first fight he looked crappy, cause he was rusted. But in his recent fight he looked ok, he was in about the same shape in the bouts prior to Klitschko fight.

I'm assuming that you guys are European? I'm American so we've really only witnessed the one fight with Wlad which still burns my eyes. What an awful fight that was. So admittedly, i could be undervaluing his ability and his chances with Wilder.

Do you really think that Fury and Wilder will even happen though? Fury's opponents have been carefully selected to this point so picking a fight with Wilder so soon on his comeback trail seems a bit careless to me. Wilder is a beast. His technique is junk but there's no doubting the guys heart and power. I see this being one of those postponement after postponement type situations that he and BJS seem to love so much.

I'm Russian, but boxers' origins don't matter for me, I've always rooted for those boxers, who have been stylistically interesting for me.

I liked the fight of Fury against Wlad just because of the fact, that someone was able to outbox Klitschko. Just the fact, that this was possible, made the fight exciting for me. Of course, it's not the fight to be rewatched, but Fury made a statement there, he should be given a credit for that. Klitschko was't outboxed even after that.

And Wilder-Fury fight is apparently on. Wilder seems to agree now. Team Fury won't blow such opportunuty considering the fact, how champions make fights between each other today.

[Sequitorian]

If Wilder knocks-out Fury ... yeah well ... OK ... so what ...

... but if Fury knocks-out Wilder ... well ... that would be something to see ... really something ... 'cause that would take some doing ... and it would take some time ... far more interesting than the reverse ... (and it's not inconceivable) ...

[Ilya Muromets]

Read my previous post in this thread. That contains the link.

Ladbrokes were impressed with Fury's performance last weekend and gave him a decent chance of beating Wilder, which is reflected by their odds.

However, 84% of punters disagree and are still placing bets on Wilder.

Whilst it seems that the bookmakers rate Fury's chances, resulting in the odds being short, the vast majority of punters are still placing their bets on Wilder.

I saw your ladbrokes link. I don't know what ladbrokes is but the odds it shows look unrealistic and out of line with odds elsewhere. For instance it shows Miller a 25 to 1 favorite over Adamek! Personally i favor Fury vs. Wilder. I gave some of my reasons on the fury is a bum now? thread


I. M. formerly known as x2x

FYI---as of now ladbrokes' midpoints---miller 17-1 over adamek---& wilder 6-5 over fury

17-1 is still nuts. If I dealt with bookies I'd surely put money on Adamek at those ridulous odds, but I don't.


I. M. formerly known as x2x

[dickbelden]

I saw your ladbrokes link. I don't know what ladbrokes is but the odds it shows look unrealistic and out of line with odds elsewhere. For instance it shows Miller a 25 to 1 favorite over Adamek! Personally i favor Fury vs. Wilder. I gave some of my reasons on the fury is a bum now? thread


I. M. formerly known as x2x

FYI---as of now ladbrokes' midpoints---miller 17-1 over adamek---& wilder 6-5 over fury

17-1 is still nuts. If I dealt with bookies I'd surely put money on Adamek at those ridulous odds, but I don't.


I. M. formerly known as x2x

agreed--- every year somebody tears an acl or a rotator cuff in a fight---this should b a fun fight---adamek is a warrior---should b a slugfest while it lasts !

[candyslim]

That somebody ... you don't mean David Haye do you

[caldo2025]

Fury is obviously a talented and skillful boxer. He's big, but he is very fast and mobile for his size. He's also a smart boxer, he can be elusive. I don't know, how you judge his current state. He faced 2 lower level opponents after his comeback. In the first fight he looked crappy, cause he was rusted. But in his recent fight he looked ok, he was in about the same shape in the bouts prior to Klitschko fight.

I'm assuming that you guys are European? I'm American so we've really only witnessed the one fight with Wlad which still burns my eyes. What an awful fight that was. So admittedly, i could be undervaluing his ability and his chances with Wilder.

Do you really think that Fury and Wilder will even happen though? Fury's opponents have been carefully selected to this point so picking a fight with Wilder so soon on his comeback trail seems a bit careless to me. Wilder is a beast. His technique is junk but there's no doubting the guys heart and power. I see this being one of those postponement after postponement type situations that he and BJS seem to love so much.

I'm Russian, but boxers' origins don't matter for me, I've always rooted for those boxers, who have been stylistically interesting for me.

I liked the fight of Fury against Wlad just because of the fact, that someone was able to outbox Klitschko. Just the fact, that this was possible, made the fight exciting for me. Of course, it's not the fight to be rewatched, but Fury made a statement there, he should be given a credit for that. Klitschko was't outboxed even after that.

And Wilder-Fury fight is apparently on. Wilder seems to agree now. Team Fury won't blow such opportunuty considering the fact, how champions make fights between each other today.

All due respect, Wlad didn't show up to fight against Fury. He certainly wasn't the same guy that stepped through the ropes for the AJ fight. You never know what these aging fighters are thinking late in their careers but Wlad certainly has more tools and gears than he showed in there with Fury. Was it a bad camp? Was he just ready to move on with his life after boxing? I certainly don't think that Wlad's pathetic performance and paltry punch output was due to anything that Fury was doing. He seemed to be going through the motions in that one.

If Fury does get in there with Wilder then we'll see what kind of game Fury has. Wilder's in his prime and he's never going to go out like Wlad did.

[DrDuke]

I'm assuming that you guys are European? I'm American so we've really only witnessed the one fight with Wlad which still burns my eyes. What an awful fight that was. So admittedly, i could be undervaluing his ability and his chances with Wilder.

Do you really think that Fury and Wilder will even happen though? Fury's opponents have been carefully selected to this point so picking a fight with Wilder so soon on his comeback trail seems a bit careless to me. Wilder is a beast. His technique is junk but there's no doubting the guys heart and power. I see this being one of those postponement after postponement type situations that he and BJS seem to love so much.

I'm Russian, but boxers' origins don't matter for me, I've always rooted for those boxers, who have been stylistically interesting for me.

I liked the fight of Fury against Wlad just because of the fact, that someone was able to outbox Klitschko. Just the fact, that this was possible, made the fight exciting for me. Of course, it's not the fight to be rewatched, but Fury made a statement there, he should be given a credit for that. Klitschko was't outboxed even after that.

And Wilder-Fury fight is apparently on. Wilder seems to agree now. Team Fury won't blow such opportunuty considering the fact, how champions make fights between each other today.

All due respect, Wlad didn't show up to fight against Fury. He certainly wasn't the same guy that stepped through the ropes for the AJ fight. You never know what these aging fighters are thinking late in their careers but Wlad certainly has more tools and gears than he showed in there with Fury. Was it a bad camp? Was he just ready to move on with his life after boxing? I certainly don't think that Wlad's pathetic performance and paltry punch output was due to anything that Fury was doing. He seemed to be going through the motions in that one.

If Fury does get in there with Wilder then we'll see what kind of game Fury has. Wilder's in his prime and he's never going to go out like Wlad did.

Wlad probably was coming for Fury fight with the thoughts, that he was facing a clown and this was an easy work. Prior to Joshua fight he was, like he was saying himself, obsessed.

[adislav123]

Against fury klit was the first time since long in his life facing an opponent who came to fight and do whatever is necessary to take those belts away from him. He just wasn't used to that nor prepared for it. He just couldn't handle even the possibilty of getting knocked out again. vlad never showed up to "fight" anybody until joshua. What he got used to was toying with (mostly handpicked, always incapable of hurting him) opponents who went into the ring with him already beaten, who had next to nothing to offer against his god awful, cautious style of sticking out, pawing with his left and leaning on & pushing down, tieing up & tireing out his smaller foes on every occasion they tried to get inside on him. To let go his steelhammer right he had to overcome his fear of getting caught, only then did he use it when he convinced himself no backfire could be expected. thank god he's history. Fury will beat Wilder quite easy!

[caldo2025]

I'm Russian, but boxers' origins don't matter for me, I've always rooted for those boxers, who have been stylistically interesting for me.

I liked the fight of Fury against Wlad just because of the fact, that someone was able to outbox Klitschko. Just the fact, that this was possible, made the fight exciting for me. Of course, it's not the fight to be rewatched, but Fury made a statement there, he should be given a credit for that. Klitschko was't outboxed even after that.

And Wilder-Fury fight is apparently on. Wilder seems to agree now. Team Fury won't blow such opportunuty considering the fact, how champions make fights between each other today.

All due respect, Wlad didn't show up to fight against Fury. He certainly wasn't the same guy that stepped through the ropes for the AJ fight. You never know what these aging fighters are thinking late in their careers but Wlad certainly has more tools and gears than he showed in there with Fury. Was it a bad camp? Was he just ready to move on with his life after boxing? I certainly don't think that Wlad's pathetic performance and paltry punch output was due to anything that Fury was doing. He seemed to be going through the motions in that one.

If Fury does get in there with Wilder then we'll see what kind of game Fury has. Wilder's in his prime and he's never going to go out like Wlad did.

Wlad probably was coming for Fury fight with the thoughts, that he was facing a clown and this was an easy work. Prior to Joshua fight he was, like he was saying himself, obsessed.

That’s exactly what it seemed like to me. I should give more credit to Fury for the head games he had played with Wlad. It definitely was effective and got Wlad out of his comfort zone. He’s never been swift of tongue in any of the 7 languages he knows. I barely know one so who the hell am I to criticize really.

Some negative news today on the prospects of Wilder vs. Fury and I’m not surprised. I really don’t see this fight happening for awhile if ever. Fury just loves calling people out and doing nothing about it.

[Ilya Muromets]

"Some negative news today on the prospects of Wilder vs. Fury"


Huh now what? what did I miss?