116-111, 115-112, 115-112 is a pretty comprehensive victory away in Deutschland.
Wlad didn't do sh*t. Tyson barely did anything. Barely doing anything was enough to beat a guy who was just standing there looking at him for 12 rounds like a f*cking moron that doesn't get the concept of you gotta throw punches to win a goddamn fight.
It was one of the worst fights in the History of Heavyweight Boxing, and I have nothing but disdain for the efforts of both men that night.
Why has it upset you so much? You seem to hate Fury because of this fight it should be Klitschko you hate if anybody for not doing anything in the fight
What I hate is the credit he gets for such an abysmal fight. I also just think he's a piece of f*cking garbage that has been a disgrace to the sport for ducking a rematch with Wlad, and becoming a fat cokehead after reaching the pinnacle of the sport. The sooner he's out of the picture, the better.
I did hate Wlad after that fight. In spite of years of being a fan of his. Wlad redeemed himself with his effort against Joshua. Fury has yet to redeem himself.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 13:40
Wlad didn't do sh*t. Tyson barely did anything. Barely doing anything was enough to beat a guy who was just standing there looking at him for 12 rounds like a f*cking moron that doesn't get the concept of you gotta throw punches to win a goddamn fight.
It was one of the worst fights in the History of Heavyweight Boxing, and I have nothing but disdain for the efforts of both men that night.
Why has it upset you so much? You seem to hate Fury because of this fight it should be Klitschko you hate if anybody for not doing anything in the fight
What I hate is the credit he gets for such an abysmal fight. I also just think he's a piece of f*cking garbage that has been a disgrace to the sport for ducking a rematch with Wlad, and becoming a fat cokehead after reaching the pinnacle of the sport. The sooner he's out of the picture, the better.
I did hate Wlad after that fight. In spite of years of being a fan of his. Wlad redeemed himself with his effort against Joshua. Fury has yet to redeem himself.
A piece of 'your rude word' garbage? I hope depression never knocks at your door. And sorry that Wlad being out thought and out faught hurt your feelings. It's a shame when your hero figures get exposed.
Wlad didn't do sh*t. Tyson barely did anything. Barely doing anything was enough to beat a guy who was just standing there looking at him for 12 rounds like a f*cking moron that doesn't get the concept of you gotta throw punches to win a goddamn fight.
It was one of the worst fights in the History of Heavyweight Boxing, and I have nothing but disdain for the efforts of both men that night.
Why has it upset you so much? You seem to hate Fury because of this fight it should be Klitschko you hate if anybody for not doing anything in the fight
What I hate is the credit he gets for such an abysmal fight. I also just think he's a piece of f*cking garbage that has been a disgrace to the sport for ducking a rematch with Wlad, and becoming a fat cokehead after reaching the pinnacle of the sport. The sooner he's out of the picture, the better.
I did hate Wlad after that fight. In spite of years of being a fan of his. Wlad redeemed himself with his effort against Joshua. Fury has yet to redeem himself.
A piece of 'your rude word' garbage? I hope depression never knocks at your door. And sorry that Wlad being out thought and out faught hurt your feelings. It's a shame when your hero figures get exposed.
Why has it upset you so much? You seem to hate Fury because of this fight it should be Klitschko you hate if anybody for not doing anything in the fight
What I hate is the credit he gets for such an abysmal fight. I also just think he's a piece of f*cking garbage that has been a disgrace to the sport for ducking a rematch with Wlad, and becoming a fat cokehead after reaching the pinnacle of the sport. The sooner he's out of the picture, the better.
I did hate Wlad after that fight. In spite of years of being a fan of his. Wlad redeemed himself with his effort against Joshua. Fury has yet to redeem himself.
A piece of 'your rude word' garbage? I hope depression never knocks at your door. And sorry that Wlad being out thought and out faught hurt your feelings. It's a shame when your hero figures get exposed.
Depression has knocked on my door. It's kicked my door in completely in fact, just recently. I wouldn't say Wlad's a "Hero" of mine, just a fighter I admired. My opinion of Wlad has no bearing on my feeling toward Fury.
Guys beat fighters I admire all the time, and it doesn't cause me think negatively of them.
What I hate is the credit he gets for such an abysmal fight. I also just think he's a piece of f*cking garbage that has been a disgrace to the sport for ducking a rematch with Wlad, and becoming a fat cokehead after reaching the pinnacle of the sport. The sooner he's out of the picture, the better.
I did hate Wlad after that fight. In spite of years of being a fan of his. Wlad redeemed himself with his effort against Joshua. Fury has yet to redeem himself.
A piece of 'your rude word' garbage? I hope depression never knocks at your door. And sorry that Wlad being out thought and out faught hurt your feelings. It's a shame when your hero figures get exposed.
Depression has knocked on my door. It's kicked my door in completely in fact, just recently. I wouldn't say Wlad's a "Hero" of mine, just a fighter I admired. My opinion of Wlad has no bearing on my feeling toward Fury.
Guys beat fighters I admire all the time, and it doesn't cause me think negatively of them.
You know, I’ve disagreed with pretty much every word he’s come out with with regards to stuff outside boxing, he has said some pretty irresponsible and horrible things about stuff he clearly isn’t qualified to speak about but your hate seems so far out there in comparison. What exactly is it he did or said?
A piece of 'your rude word' garbage? I hope depression never knocks at your door. And sorry that Wlad being out thought and out faught hurt your feelings. It's a shame when your hero figures get exposed.
Depression has knocked on my door. It's kicked my door in completely in fact, just recently. I wouldn't say Wlad's a "Hero" of mine, just a fighter I admired. My opinion of Wlad has no bearing on my feeling toward Fury.
Guys beat fighters I admire all the time, and it doesn't cause me think negatively of them.
You know, I’ve disagreed with pretty much every word he’s come out with with regards to stuff outside boxing, he has said some pretty irresponsible and horrible things about stuff he clearly isn’t qualified to speak about but your hate seems so far out there in comparison. What exactly is it he did or said?
The "Women should only be in the kitchen or on their backs" comment. The Dressing up like Batman at a Press Conference bullshit. Winning the title only to go on to avoid the man he won it from, become a fat tub of sh*t who doesn't fight for years.
What if Hasim Rahman retired for two years and there was no rematch with Lewis?
The Klitschko that came back vs AJ was like the fired up version of Lewis that got the return v Rahman - luckily for Fury it was Joshua who he came back against.
Meanwhile we can all sit back and only reminisce about this boxing wizard who got put over by Cunningham and once upon a time punched himself in the face.
jamamb wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:12
is the cunningham fight the 'real' fury?
I doubt it. He was actually exciting in that fight because he had such a massive size advantage he actually fought with some balls in that fight. It definitely showed he can be hurt though, and if he can be hurt and dropped by Cunningham. You know damn well he can be hurt and dropped by Wilder or Joshua. Cunningham wasn't even a big hitter as a Cruiserweight.
jamamb wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:12
is the cunningham fight the 'real' fury?
I doubt it. He was actually exciting in that fight because he had such a massive size advantage he actually fought with some balls in that fight. It definitely showed he can be hurt though, and if he can be hurt and dropped by Cunningham. You know damn well he can be hurt and dropped by Wilder or Joshua. Cunningham wasn't even a big hitter as a Cruiserweight.
Yup. Fury has made a career out of jabbing on the run, but i can't hardly blame him. What else you going to do with a 7 foot reach?
Those belittling Fury’s win v Wlad and attributing it to Wlad’s not throwing any punches should ask themselves why he didn’t throw any and realise that it was down to Fury’s skills and ring generalship. That Tyson beats AJ easily.
I’m doubtful whether we’ll see Tyson perform that well again. I don’t think his current trainer can motivate him well enough to get into that kind of shape nor does he have the strategic insight that Peter Fury had and therefore if he fights Wilder I think he’ll lose.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:51
Those belittling Fury’s win v Wlad and attributing it to Wlad’s not throwing any punches should ask themselves why he didn’t throw any and realise that it was down to Fury’s skills and ring generalship. That Tyson beats AJ easily.
I’m doubtful whether we’ll see Tyson perform that well again. I don’t think his current trainer can motivate him well enough to get into that kind of shape nor does he have the strategic insight that Peter Fury had and therefore if he fights Wilder I think he’ll lose.
Joshua is an easier fight for Fury than Wilder. AJs skillset is pretty basic, predictable.
Wilder is the opposite, hes not only wild and unorthodox- he fools you into think he's out of range before slingshot a haymaker halfway across the ring. He's going to lay Fury out early.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:51
Those belittling Fury’s win v Wlad and attributing it to Wlad’s not throwing any punches should ask themselves why he didn’t throw any and realise that it was down to Fury’s skills and ring generalship. That Tyson beats AJ easily.
I’m doubtful whether we’ll see Tyson perform that well again. I don’t think his current trainer can motivate him well enough to get into that kind of shape nor does he have the strategic insight that Peter Fury had and therefore if he fights Wilder I think he’ll lose.
Joshua is an easier fight for Fury than Wilder. AJs skillset is pretty basic, predictable.
Wilder is the opposite, hes not only wild and unorthodox- he fools you into think he's out of range before slingshot a haymaker halfway across the ring. He's going to lay Fury out early.
Ricky I agree. AJ does not possess a variety of skill. He also does not possess a high ring IQ.
Not a knock on the guy he does exceptionally well with his athleticism and brute strength.
But people who claim he is a master boxer are fooling themselves
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:51
Those belittling Fury’s win v Wlad and attributing it to Wlad’s not throwing any punches should ask themselves why he didn’t throw any and realise that it was down to Fury’s skills and ring generalship. That Tyson beats AJ easily.
I’m doubtful whether we’ll see Tyson perform that well again. I don’t think his current trainer can motivate him well enough to get into that kind of shape nor does he have the strategic insight that Peter Fury had and therefore if he fights Wilder I think he’ll lose.
Joshua is an easier fight for Fury than Wilder. AJs skillset is pretty basic, predictable.
Wilder is the opposite, hes not only wild and unorthodox- he fools you into think he's out of range before slingshot a haymaker halfway across the ring. He's going to lay Fury out early.
Ricky I agree. AJ does not possess a variety of skill. He also does not possess a high ring IQ.
Not a knock on the guy he does exceptionally well with his athleticism and brute strength.
But people who claim he is a master boxer are fooling themselves
Indeed. He is a massive task for anyone because he could derail a steam train with that right hand. He's a little lucky in terms of his timing in coming up in the division because either Klitchko would have jabbed him to bits. Fury certainly could box him, but Fury lacks power & maybe that lets AJ close in on him. AJ/Fury/Wilder is certainly an interesting dynamic & the most interesting the division has been in a long time. I also think Dillion Whyte is on the fringe of being a serious contender.
Fast feet and hands. Nimble. Good jab. Can use different stances. Good movement. Throws nice combos. Uses his size well. Very unique and awkward style - no other heavy fights the way he does so he must be a pain to prepare for. Good stamina.
Negatives. Lacks power. Suspect chin. Showboating will get him knocked out at some point. A bit too defensive which could count against him when it goes to the cards.
Klitschko reigned using similar boxing/generalship tactics... But but he had a devastating right hand.
Fury hasn't got that and when he comes up against world level opposition who have aggression in their approach he'll get knocked out or become so negative he'll struggle to win rounds.
There is no one on his record other than Klitschko at world level.
Joshua has fought a string of top tier opposition.
Fury is overrated - a good fighter, but overrated. If you're thinking Fury can do to every other top hw what he did to Wlad, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
sharpei_louis wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 20:08
What if Hasim Rahman retired for two years and there was no rematch with Lewis?
The Klitschko that came back vs AJ was like the fired up version of Lewis that got the return v Rahman - luckily for Fury it was Joshua who he came back against.
Luckily for Joshua, the guy who put him on the floor was a 41 year old who hadn't boxed for 17 months and not Lennox Lewis.
It seems that it doesn't matter what Joshua does he can't get the respect he deserves (except perhaps beating Fury and/or Wilder).
Whereas Fury beats Klitschko (in much less dramatic style or emphatically than Joshua), hes lauded as the lineal world champion despite 3 years of inactivity.
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 04:20
It seems that it doesn't matter what Joshua does he can't get the respect he deserves (except perhaps beating Fury and/or Wilder).
Whereas Fury beats Klitschko (in much less dramatic style or emphatically than Joshua), hes lauded as the lineal world champion despite 3 years of inactivity.
Yes, you’ve said it yourself, Tyson BEAT Wlad, making him the champ. AJ beat a comebacking version.
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 04:20
It seems that it doesn't matter what Joshua does he can't get the respect he deserves (except perhaps beating Fury and/or Wilder).
He demanded $50m to fight Wilder.
He was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll".
The public want to see that fight.
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 04:20
It seems that it doesn't matter what Joshua does he can't get the respect he deserves (except perhaps beating Fury and/or Wilder).
Whereas Fury beats Klitschko (in much less dramatic style or emphatically than Joshua), hes lauded as the lineal world champion despite 3 years of inactivity.
Yes, you’ve said it yourself, Tyson BEAT Wlad, making him the champ. AJ beat a comebacking version.
Here lies the problem. You say the version of Klirschko which turned up against Fury was better than the version which turned up against Joshua, whereas I'm saying the opposite.
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 04:20
It seems that it doesn't matter what Joshua does he can't get the respect he deserves (except perhaps beating Fury and/or Wilder).
He demanded $50m to fight Wilder.
He was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll".
The public want to see that fight.
How much do either of us know about the dealings behind the scenes of that fight? General rule of thumb, is ignore announcements on social media.
It's easy to make the Fury fight because both of them have much lower financial expectations. Neither of them have made more than a couple million for a fight, so there's no massive financial discrepancies.
Joshua' s record illustrates his ambition. Wilder record illustrates a lack of it.
