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Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 11:02
by Enlightened-One
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:27
Are these numerous ABC governing bodies the single biggest issue for the sport?
Without all these belts and differing rankings, there wouldn't be so much picking and choosing of opponents by cautious Promoters, and all the knock on effect that it brings (TV deals etc).
Without the sports’ governing bodies, boxing would just be like professional wrestling entertainment. There’d be no reason for rival promoters and TV networks to work with each other. Think about wrestlers that are employed by the WWE’s rivals or alternatively UFC fighters.
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 11:27
by ewenhay
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:02
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:27
Are these numerous ABC governing bodies the single biggest issue for the sport?
Without all these belts and differing rankings, there wouldn't be so much picking and choosing of opponents by cautious Promoters, and all the knock on effect that it brings (TV deals etc).
Without the sports’ governing bodies, boxing would just be like professional wrestling entertainment. There’d be no reason for rival promoters and TV networks to work with each other. Think about wrestlers that are employed by the WWE’s rivals or alternatively UFC fighters.
I disagree. The issue here is too many governing bodies with too many belts.
If there was one reputable (yes I know!) global governing body then promoters would be forced to work with each other or their fighters would be unable to progress.
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 11:40
by Enlightened-One
ewenhay wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:02
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:27
Are these numerous ABC governing bodies the single biggest issue for the sport?
Without all these belts and differing rankings, there wouldn't be so much picking and choosing of opponents by cautious Promoters, and all the knock on effect that it brings (TV deals etc).
Without the sports’ governing bodies, boxing would just be like professional wrestling entertainment. There’d be no reason for rival promoters and TV networks to work with each other. Think about wrestlers that are employed by the WWE’s rivals or alternatively UFC fighters.
I disagree. The issue here is too many governing bodies with too many belts.
If there was one reputable (yes I know!) global governing body then promoters would be forced to work with each other or their fighters would be unable to progress.
Fair enough, I can see your point and I guess I agree with it. However, without any reputable governing body (and let’s face it, one doesn’t currently exist), there’d be total anarchy. Cross-promotional or cross-TV network fights wouldn’t happen.
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 11:49
by ewenhay
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:40
ewenhay wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:02
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:27
Are these numerous ABC governing bodies the single biggest issue for the sport?
Without all these belts and differing rankings, there wouldn't be so much picking and choosing of opponents by cautious Promoters, and all the knock on effect that it brings (TV deals etc).
Without the sports’ governing bodies, boxing would just be like professional wrestling entertainment. There’d be no reason for rival promoters and TV networks to work with each other. Think about wrestlers that are employed by the WWE’s rivals or alternatively UFC fighters.
I disagree. The issue here is too many governing bodies with too many belts.
If there was one reputable (yes I know!) global governing body then promoters would be forced to work with each other or their fighters would be unable to progress.
Fair enough, I can see your point and I guess I agree with it. However, without any reputable governing body (and let’s face it, one doesn’t currently exist), there’d be total anarchy. Cross-promotional or cross-TV network fights wouldn’t happen.
I agree, there needs to be a structure.
Unfortunately more than one body just leads to a different kind of anarchy
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 12:04
by leejonesjnr
halfamill wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 14:57
Is this global belt really being considered a world title or is it just another belt like the silver and diamond belts?
It’s not a World Championship, it’s an oddly named regional belt
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 05 Mar 2019, 12:04
by leejonesjnr
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 15:07
halfamill wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 14:57
Is this global belt really being considered a world title or is it just another belt like the silver and diamond belts?
I’m sure I read the WBO Global champion was Usyk.
It’s not one you defend. Kinda like the WBO Super. Get’s given to you after a certain amount of time or whatever other excuse they can give.
Nope
Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 07:00
by Fightnight Scores
ewenhay wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:49
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:40
ewenhay wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:02
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:27
Are these numerous ABC governing bodies the single biggest issue for the sport?
Without all these belts and differing rankings, there wouldn't be so much picking and choosing of opponents by cautious Promoters, and all the knock on effect that it brings (TV deals etc).
Without the sports’ governing bodies, boxing would just be like professional wrestling entertainment. There’d be no reason for rival promoters and TV networks to work with each other. Think about wrestlers that are employed by the WWE’s rivals or alternatively UFC fighters.
I disagree. The issue here is too many governing bodies with too many belts.
If there was one reputable (yes I know!) global governing body then promoters would be forced to work with each other or their fighters would be unable to progress.
Fair enough, I can see your point and I guess I agree with it. However, without any reputable governing body (and let’s face it, one doesn’t currently exist), there’d be total anarchy. Cross-promotional or cross-TV network fights wouldn’t happen.
I agree, there needs to be a structure.
Unfortunately more than one body just leads to a different kind of anarchy
I had SOME hopes years back that MAYBE the Ring Magazine could have been that overseeing body of respect by all parties. Fight fans, the boxers themselves and the promoters.
But all that went out of the window when De La Hoya bought it

Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 07:22
by Enlightened-One
The WBO have very likely renamed the “
Trans-Oceanic” title to remove the word “
Trans” from being affiliated with their organisation, which prevent causing offence to activists and subsequently receiving excessively harsh criticism from the overly-sensitive members of the SJW and LGBTQ+ (aka LGBTQIA+ or LGBTTQQIAAP) communities.

Re: WBO Introduces new belt
Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 08:45
by ewenhay
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Mar 2019, 07:22
The WBO have very likely renamed the “
Trans-Oceanic” title to remove the word “
Trans” from being affiliated with their organisation, which prevent causing offence to activists and subsequently receiving excessively harsh criticism from the overly-sensitive members of the SJW and LGBTQ+ (aka LGBTQIA+ or LGBTTQQIAAP) communities.
The biggest surprise is that they haven't introduced belts for each of the communities
My money is on the wba thinking of it first