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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 15:59 To be fair, Manny Pacquiao would have almost certainly agreed to face Tenshin Nasukawa for the sort of money Floyd received.

People like to take the moral high-ground and criticise certain business decisions, but many fighters that criticised Floyd for facing Conor McGregor also openly admitted that they’d agreed do the very same thing.

Forget about morality, money is the only thing that really matters for most professional fighters.

I really can’t help thinking that Floyd enjoys his nortoriety, because it’s the main reason why he’s enjoyed such a financially lucrative career.

People are generally jealous of him, even thoufh he tries his upmost to portray himself as a distinctly unlikable character. It works for him.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 19:58 The dude thought he could win. They paid Mayweather a lot of money for the opportunity. They found out he couldn't win. I don't see the issue.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 16:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 15:59 To be fair, Manny Pacquiao would have almost certainly agreed to face Tenshin Nasukawa for the sort of money Floyd received.

People like to take the moral high-ground and criticise certain business decisions, but many fighters that criticised Floyd for facing Conor McGregor also openly admitted that they’d agreed do the very same thing.

Forget about morality, money is the only thing that really matters for most professional fighters.

I really can’t help thinking that Floyd enjoys his nortoriety, because it’s the main reason why he’s enjoyed such a financially lucrative career.

People are generally jealous of him, even thoufh he tries his upmost to portray himself as a distinctly unlikable character. It works for him.

I can't think of any fighter that would turn down this type of money for basically a sparring session.
Manny would definitely take it and run to the bank to cash it before the ink dried

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:44

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 16:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 15:59 To be fair, Manny Pacquiao would have almost certainly agreed to face Tenshin Nasukawa for the sort of money Floyd received.

People like to take the moral high-ground and criticise certain business decisions, but many fighters that criticised Floyd for facing Conor McGregor also openly admitted that they’d agreed do the very same thing.

Forget about morality, money is the only thing that really matters for most professional fighters.

I really can’t help thinking that Floyd enjoys his nortoriety, because it’s the main reason why he’s enjoyed such a financially lucrative career.

People are generally jealous of him, even thoufh he tries his upmost to portray himself as a distinctly unlikable character. It works for him.

I can't think of any fighter that would turn down this type of money for basically a sparring session.
Manny would definitely take it and run to the bank to cash it before the ink dried

I’m glad we agree on this. We rarely see eye-to-eye, but we almost certainly agree about this!

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:44

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 16:21

I can't think of any fighter that would turn down this type of money for basically a sparring session.
Manny would definitely take it and run to the bank to cash it before the ink dried

I’m glad we agree on this. We rarely see eye-to-eye, but we almost certainly agree about this!

Even though we hardly ever agree I enjoy our debates.
Happy New year my friend

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:49

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:44
I’m glad we agree on this. We rarely see eye-to-eye, but we almost certainly agree about this!

Even though we hardly ever agree I enjoy our debates.
Happy New year my friend

Happy New Year Tiny. I genuinely appreciate your contribution to the forum and always respect your opinions, even though I don’t always agree with them.

I hope you have a very fruitful 2019.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:56 Happy New Year everyone. I hope I haven’t pîssèd off too many people with my pedantic nature this tear, but that wasn’t my intention. My aim was to deter people from making derogatory assumptions based on idle gossip, rather than objectively evaluating situations based on raw facts.

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:57

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:56 Happy New Year everyone. I hope I haven’t pîssèd off too many people with my pedantic nature this tear, but that wasn’t my intention. My aim was to deter people from making derogatory assumptions based on idle gossip, rather than objectively evaluating situations based on raw facts.

You're ok EO. I wouldn't have you any other way! Happy New Year and all the health and wealth you wish!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:57

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 20:56 Happy New Year everyone. I hope I haven’t pîssèd off too many people with my pedantic nature this tear, but that wasn’t my intention. My aim was to deter people from making derogatory assumptions based on idle gossip, rather than objectively evaluating situations based on raw facts.

You're ok EO. I wouldn't have you any other way! Happy New Year and all the health and wealth you wish!

Thank-you my friend oogiebe

greg wrote: ↑31 Dec 2018, 15:12 ..I wonder what his next project might be: boxing in octagon against 200 pounds heavy 20-year-old chess-player?

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jan 2019, 13:00

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019, 06:01

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jan 2019, 13:00

First of all, I don’t agree with Dan Rafael’s criticism of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s exhibition bout against Tenshin Nasukawa, since the vast majority of fighters would have done the same thing and it’s novelty events such as this one that attracts widespread interest from the mainstream casuals.

And I feel that Andre Ward’s comments about so-called “boogiemen” to be a tad inappropriate assuming he’s referring to the likes of GGG, even though he is technically correct.

I know I’m going to get aggressively ridiculed for having the sheer audacity for bothering to fact-check Ward’s claim, even though it is almost certainly correct.

We know for certain that GGG has been competing at 165lbs as an amateur and 160lbs as a pro for more than sixteen years.

It’s also a statistical fact that 16 of Golovkin’s 22 world title bouts were against men that competed in lower weight classes prior to their bout against the Kazakh:

• Kell Brook (welterweight)
• David Lemieux (light middleweight)
• Willie Monroe Jr. (light middleweight)
• Marco Antonio Rubio (welterweight)
• Osumanu Adama (light middleweight)
• Matthew Macklin (welterweight)
• Nobuhiro Ishida (light middleweight)
• Gabriel Rosado (light middleweight)
• Grzegorz Proksa (light middleweight)
• Makoto Fuchigami (light middleweight)
• Kassim Ouma (welterweight)
• Nilson Julio Tapia (light middleweight)
• Canelo (light welterweight)
• Vanes Martirosyan (light middleweight)
• Milton Nunez (light middleweight)

For the record, I feel that the comments made by Dan Rafael and Andre Ward were unnecessary, but I was admittedly very surprised about the accuracy of the SOG’s claim!

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019, 06:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019, 06:01

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jan 2019, 13:00

First of all, I don’t agree with Dan Rafael’s criticism of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s exhibition bout against Tenshin Nasukawa, since the vast majority of fighters would have done the same thing and it’s novelty events such as this one that attracts widespread interest from the mainstream casuals.

And I feel that Andre Ward’s comments about so-called “boogiemen” to be a tad inappropriate assuming he’s referring to the likes of GGG, even though he is technically correct.

I know I’m going to get aggressively ridiculed for having the sheer audacity for bothering to fact-check Ward’s claim, even though it is almost certainly correct.

We know for certain that GGG has been competing at 165lbs as an amateur and 160lbs as a pro for more than sixteen years.

It’s also a statistical fact that 16 of Golovkin’s 22 world title bouts were against men that competed in lower weight classes prior to their bout against the Kazakh:

• Kell Brook (welterweight)
• David Lemieux (light middleweight)
• Willie Monroe Jr. (light middleweight)
• Marco Antonio Rubio (welterweight)
• Osumanu Adama (light middleweight)
• Matthew Macklin (welterweight)
• Nobuhiro Ishida (light middleweight)
• Gabriel Rosado (light middleweight)
• Grzegorz Proksa (light middleweight)
• Makoto Fuchigami (light middleweight)
• Kassim Ouma (welterweight)
• Nilson Julio Tapia (light middleweight)
• Canelo (light welterweight)
• Vanes Martirosyan (light middleweight)
• Milton Nunez (light middleweight)

For the record, I feel that the comments made by Dan Rafael and Andre Ward were unnecessary, but I was admittedly very surprised about the accuracy of the SOG’s claim!

At least they were boxers and around the same weight as GGG at the time. That Tenshin fight was a joke. Hagler, who many rate as one of the greatest MWs in history best opponents were Hearns (welterweight), SRL (welterweight) and Duran (lightweight).

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019, 06:24 Floyd's bout was only ever advertised as an exhibition. There was no pretence for it to represent anything other than that.