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leejonesjnr wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 05:41

smiling assassin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 04:52 I know Josh sells big but I wouldn't be surprised if it sells way short of his normal numbers. People seem to be turning on him now and rematching Whyte aint gonna change that

It will be interesting to find out.
Perception on here can be very different to what actually happens in the world at large.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 05:50 It'll still sell well once all the hype starts,

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 07:06

adislav123 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:45

adislav123 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.

Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.

bigjack wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:42

smiling assassin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:45

adislav123 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.

Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.

There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.

ILikeBeer wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 06:07

bigjack wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:42

smiling assassin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:45

adislav123 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.

Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.

There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:50

bigjack wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:42

smiling assassin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:45
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.

There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.

I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:55 Be funny if Whyte won and then signed with Wazzer

RKY wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:50

bigjack wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:42

There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.

I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?

Rematches are often different imo, as it only stands to reason that the loser in fight 1 will employ a different game plan.

I had backed Rios to KO Alvarado in fight 1 which came good. In the rematch I had a feeling Rios would just try to walk him down again but Mike would adjust, so I backed Alvarado by dec which came good too. (They had a 3rd fight in which Rios won by KO too, but I never seen the last bout)

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:46

RKY wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 11:50

I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?

Rematches are often different imo, as it only stands to reason that the loser in fight 1 will employ a different game plan.

I had backed Rios to KO Alvarado in fight 1 which came good. In the rematch I had a feeling Rios would just try to walk him down again but Mike would adjust, so I backed Alvarado by dec which came good too. (They had a 3rd fight in which Rios won by KO too, but I never seen the last bout)

Yes there’s often differences in rematches where the boxers are relatively evenly matched.

But how often are rematches different when the loser of the first fight (as the underdog of both fights) was so comprehensively beaten up & ko’d?

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 09:55 Be funny if Whyte won and then signed with Wazzer

jamamb wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:48

jamamb wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight

Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:57

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:48

jamamb wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight

Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.

Joshua won every round (can't remember which one he was tagged in) he was stunned but not staggered. And it wasn't the same full body left hook that took out Chisora and Browne. It was a shorter counter left.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 14:16

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:57

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:48

Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.

Joshua won every round (can't remember which one he was tagged in) he was stunned but not staggered. And it wasn't the same full body left hook that took out Chisora and Browne. It was a shorter counter left.

I think I neee to rewatch!