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SAPFO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:43 The 'young up and coming lion' that is Callum Smith, is 28, 2 years younger than GG!!

It goes to show you what ring milage actual stands for. GG has really done some milage in his career.

Yep just goes to show how different people are, some fighters are done at world class before they reach 30, some like Hopkins or Archie Moore were still at a high level in their late 40's.

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:23 Apparently all you have to do is mention Ward to Froch on Twitter and he'll block you.

His wife must cheat on him once a week and he must know. Why else is he so insecure?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/47031929

Good article regarding Groves' career.

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:26

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:23 Apparently all you have to do is mention Ward to Froch on Twitter and he'll block you.

His wife must cheat on him once a week and he must know. Why else is he so insecure?

I've always said he's boxing's version of David Brent, he lashes out when his veil of vanity is lifted.

thechump wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 14:53

"I do remember thinking he started off well and went for it, but then started to fade. But he bit down on his gum-shield and picked the pace up. He took it to Chudinov with a heavy assault of hooks and combinations and got the stoppage. I was happy to stand up and applaud him, he'd won a world title at the fourth attempt. Seeing anyone fulfill their dream is nice, even if they are not your best mate”, Froch said.

"But I won't miss him and I am not sure that British boxing will miss him, these days at least. There was nothing left out there for him."

What a bitter wanker he is. Proves that GG is levels above froch when it comes to being a real gentleman. Froch never wanted a rematch with ward,i remember ward ironing out froch in atlanta,he gave froch a new nose but some knobs you just cant humble.

Like when Groves was threatening to 'shank' people in Frochs team? That kind of gentleman?
Ward was offered the fight on the UK on more than 1 occasion but wouldn't take it. Not saying Froch would win but get Ward out of the US and it would have been an interesting night, particularly in Nottingham.

Think your definition of ironing someone out needs a bit of thought chump.

dookus wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 05:24

Noxy wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:29

the patriot wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 18:45 I just read his 5 page retirement letter on his Instagram.. thanked everyone, and I mean everyone..

Apart from Adam Booth???

I know they split before the 1st Froch fight but was there a bad falling out between the pair??

Yeah, I noticed that and all. Who knows what happened.

Haye and Fitzpatrick were also notable by their absence (the former moreso)

I clean forgot about them pair.. seems strange.. he even thanked the people who ran his social media at the start yet not these???

Groves had a great career and probably hasn't had the full credit he deserves.

Commonwealth, British, European and world titles...the complete set !

I'll never forgot the battle with Kenny Anderson, brutal fight. Only 4 defeats to 3 men, all in world title fights against high quality opposition. When you compare Groves' record with others, the lack of fodder really stands out.

Congratulations and best wishes George. Be nice to see him putting back into the sport when he's ready. He's a got a huge amount of experience to offer British boxing.

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:47

thechump wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 14:53

"I do remember thinking he started off well and went for it, but then started to fade. But he bit down on his gum-shield and picked the pace up. He took it to Chudinov with a heavy assault of hooks and combinations and got the stoppage. I was happy to stand up and applaud him, he'd won a world title at the fourth attempt. Seeing anyone fulfill their dream is nice, even if they are not your best mate”, Froch said.

"But I won't miss him and I am not sure that British boxing will miss him, these days at least. There was nothing left out there for him."

What a bitter wanker he is. Proves that GG is levels above froch when it comes to being a real gentleman. Froch never wanted a rematch with ward,i remember ward ironing out froch in atlanta,he gave froch a new nose but some knobs you just cant humble.

Like when Groves was threatening to 'shank' people in Frochs team? That kind of gentleman?
Ward was offered the fight on the UK on more than 1 occasion but wouldn't take it. Not saying Froch would win but get Ward out of the US and it would have been an interesting night, particularly in Nottingham.

Think your definition of ironing someone out needs a bit of thought chump.

Ward would of smashed froch anywere on the planet,ward bullied froch up close boxed his head off from the outside,ok he never ironed him out but he gave him a boxing lesson,he had his flute and tamed the cobra lol. Are you talking about the same people from the froch camp that were threatening groves? His two baffoon brothers??

thechump wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 09:57

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:47

thechump wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:08

What a bitter wanker he is. Proves that GG is levels above froch when it comes to being a real gentleman. Froch never wanted a rematch with ward,i remember ward ironing out froch in atlanta,he gave froch a new nose but some knobs you just cant humble.

Like when Groves was threatening to 'shank' people in Frochs team? That kind of gentleman?
Ward was offered the fight on the UK on more than 1 occasion but wouldn't take it. Not saying Froch would win but get Ward out of the US and it would have been an interesting night, particularly in Nottingham.

Think your definition of ironing someone out needs a bit of thought chump.

Ward would of smashed froch anywere on the planet,ward bullied froch up close boxed his head off from the outside,ok he never ironed him out but he gave him a boxing lesson,he had his flute and tamed the cobra lol. Are you talking about the same people from the froch camp that were threatening groves? His two baffoon brothers??

Is it Lee Froch who was the bellend in the leather jacket ?

The hype around that fight, including the genuine dislike towards each other was an integral part of making it a successful promotion. Both fighters backed it up in the ring and hardly went overboard in the pre fight antics.

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:32

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:26

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:23 Apparently all you have to do is mention Ward to Froch on Twitter and he'll block you.

His wife must cheat on him once a week and he must know. Why else is he so insecure?

I've always said he's boxing's version of David Brent, he lashes out when his veil of vanity is lifted.

( not really the point but I think you have misunderstood the Brent character)

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:08 The hype around that fight, including the genuine dislike towards each other was an integral part of making it a successful promotion. Both fighters backed it up in the ring and hardly went overboard in the pre fight antics.

Just a bit of push and pull

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:13

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:32

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:26

His wife must cheat on him once a week and he must know. Why else is he so insecure?

I've always said he's boxing's version of David Brent, he lashes out when his veil of vanity is lifted.

( not really the point but I think you have misunderstood the Brent character)

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:15

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:13

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 08:32


I've always said he's boxing's version of David Brent, he lashes out when his veil of vanity is lifted.

( not really the point but I think you have misunderstood the Brent character)

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:18

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:15

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:13

( not really the point but I think you have misunderstood the Brent character)

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

Maybe but Froch should be judged as a fighter not a person. Some things which may lead people to think he can be a bit unpleasant are also things which made him the fighter he was.

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:20

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:18

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:15

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

Maybe but Froch should be judged as a fighter not a person. Some things which may lead people to think he can be a bit unpleasant are also things which made him the fighter he was.

Nah. He can be judged by any criteria, just like anyone else. Fighter/person/butcher/baker/candlestick maker.

Yeah but I am judging him as a boxer not as a prospective husband for my daughter.
There aren't any titles to be won for being a nice bloke.
We can easily pick apart Joshua's personality too.

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:20

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:18

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:15

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

Maybe but Froch should be judged as a fighter not a person. Some things which may lead people to think he can be a bit unpleasant are also things which made him the fighter he was.

Or, you can separate the two. Froch was a great fighter and an absolute prick.

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:34 Yeah but I am judging him as a boxer not as a prospective husband for my daughter.
There aren't any titles to be won for being a nice bloke.
We can easily pick apart Joshua's personality too.

Entirely up to you wether or not you have an opinion on the man rather than the boxer. This thread is actually about George Groves but it has evolved organically, as conversations sometimes do. For example my post which caused this segue way was actually pointing out how someone had misunderstood David Brent.
Yes Anthony Joshua could easily, as could many others. Not by you of course, you only see the boxer, not the man.

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:34 Yeah but I am judging him as a boxer not as a prospective husband for my daughter.
There aren't any titles to be won for being a nice bloke.
We can easily pick apart Joshua's personality too.

Yeah.
Most high-functioning athletes and coaches are extremely selfish, narcissistic control-freaks with borderline personality disorders.
I think in boxing this trend is even more pronounced. They have to lie to themselves - and lie hard - just to be able to function. It's why so many talk of themselves in the 3rd person. It's not arrogance (at least rarely) - it's a psychological trick.

Think of the grief Paul Smith got on here for talking/acting like a World Class title challenger ! The poor guy HAD to think and act like that to blot out reality. Deserves a medal for making the career that he did from his meagre talent.

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:38

Good one, cheers

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:20

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:18

banjo wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:15

What that he isn't anywhere near as clever and cool as he makes out?

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

Maybe but Froch should be judged as a fighter not a person. Some things which may lead people to think he can be a bit unpleasant are also things which made him the fighter he was.

Disagree. Foreman had a chin of steel, fought face first and left it all in the ring and he wasn't as unpleasant as literally picking up dogshite and putting it directly in to your mouth

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 12:32

Coco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:20

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 11:18

The basic idea behind Brent is that he is a bafoon who says and does ridiculous and inappropriate things because he is desperate to be liked but is fundamentally a good human being. I don’t believe that Froch is, he is deeply unpleasant.

Maybe but Froch should be judged as a fighter not a person. Some things which may lead people to think he can be a bit unpleasant are also things which made him the fighter he was.

Disagree. Foreman had a chin of steel, fought face first and left it all in the ring and he wasn't as unpleasant as literally picking up dogshite and putting it directly in to your mouth

He was in his first stanza.

Froch should mainly be judged for being a fighter but if he plasters his opinions out there for all to see he's gonna get some stick isn't he