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jamamb wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 16:51 he was given the offer with 11 weeks, thats plenty whether its vs aj or another hw, nothing to do with aj

around 4 months for camp is totally excessive

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 17:13

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 16:20

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 14:45 Not my point. I don't necessarily like AJ, but he is not the negotiator here. I only can blame him for not stepping in and demanding one of these fights.

According to Hearn, Joshua runs the show and decides on the money that's offered.

I don't believe anything that Hearn says.

skanksta wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 18:11

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 14:40 Hearn is ruining Joshua's career. Offering peanuts to opponents. He's already been played by fury and wilder and Joshua looks like he's ducking fights. To anyone not on this British forum of course.

That's silly.

I don't think Joshua isn't ducking fights because I'm British.
AND it runs counter to your own logic. These fights aren't getting made because Hearn is "offering peanuts" - so how can AJ be ducking fights that aren't being made ?

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:20

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

Totally irrelevant.

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

black panther wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:40

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

Boxing is a little different. Due it’s nature your next fight could be your last & your working life is very limited. The health risks in boxing are high and you can only compete for a limited timeframe so I don’t blame boxers for trying to maximise their earnings.

At any given moment your career could be over. And worse case scenario you could also be left unable to do any other kind of work.,

black panther wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:40

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

Boxing is a little different. Due it’s nature your next fight could be your last & your working life is very limited. The health risks in boxing are high and you can only compete for a limited timeframe so I don’t blame boxers for trying to maximise their earnings.

At any given moment your career could be over. And worse case scenario you could also be left unable to do any other kind of work.,

Oiky wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:49 Yeah boxers are deserving of their pay, it's a sport like no other, with the risks sky high, and many people don't give a f*ck for them when it's all said & done, so I don't begrudge them going out for big bucks

On the flip side though, no one forces anyone to fight, that's an individual choice, no one holds a fighter up at gunpoint & says you must do this you must do that, so the way they carry on at times about doing their job is a bit farcical, turning down lucrative fights that will get them a lot of dough just because they want even more dough, different if they was turning down a p*sstake of an offer that was a liberty, but some turn their nose up at decent paydays

banjo wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 07:19 It's about what you think you're worth, years ago I read about Nigel Benn effectively pricing himself out of a fight with RJJ because the money on offer wasn't worth the risk of getting twatted senseless(which would have happened and I love Nige) when he could make similar amounts fighting lower ranked opponents.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 23:48

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 17:083 months is plenty

If he's injury-free and 2/3s fit, sure. But to use myself as an example (admittedly not the most relevant one), I'm currently over 2 mins per mile slower on runs than I was in the summer, following an injury from overtraining that forced me into very light work for a few months.

And the thing is, what was overtraining for me would've been laughably lazy for any pro. Once we get a bit older we can often still reach fantastic fitness levels, but it can't be guns-blazing any more. I'm pushing 40 and could probably get close to the times I was capable of in my 20s, but training would take twice as long without PEDs due to the increased recovery and my poor base. Right now I get DOMS if I run more than twice per week, so I'll be very carefully upping my mileage until about April, and only then will I have the base to push on for anything respectable.

Now this should be moot for Whyte because he's a pro athlete, but I do think he's overweight and needs several months to reach his best. He shouldn't be in this position (barring injury) in the first place, but since it appears he is, I'd have no problem with giving him 4 months to bring along the best version of himself. Miller doesn't look like he'll ever put in enough work, though, so I think he'd be fine for Wembley.

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:48

black panther wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:40

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 05:11 Looks like Joshua and Whyte have set the bar too high,the pair of greedy bastards make me sick when we have millions of people unsure about their job prospects post Brexit

Boxing is a little different. Due it’s nature your next fight could be your last & your working life is very limited. The health risks in boxing are high and you can only compete for a limited timeframe so I don’t blame boxers for trying to maximise their earnings.

At any given moment your career could be over. And worse case scenario you could also be left unable to do any other kind of work.,

Yes i totally understand all that but boxing is a risky business at any level,Whyte would have made a few quid for his first few fights,now he's being offered millions for a chance at the richest prize in sport and has turned it down.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 23:48

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 17:083 months is plenty

If he's injury-free and 2/3s fit, sure. But to use myself as an example (admittedly not the most relevant one), I'm currently over 2 mins per mile slower on runs than I was in the summer, following an injury from overtraining that forced me into very light work for a few months.

And the thing is, what was overtraining for me would've been laughably lazy for any pro. Once we get a bit older we can often still reach fantastic fitness levels, but it can't be guns-blazing any more. I'm pushing 40 and could probably get close to the times I was capable of in my 20s, but training would take twice as long without PEDs due to the increased recovery and my poor base. Right now I get DOMS if I run more than twice per week, so I'll be very carefully upping my mileage until about April, and only then will I have the base to push on for anything respectable.

Now this should be moot for Whyte because he's a pro athlete, but I do think he's overweight and needs several months to reach his best. He shouldn't be in this position (barring injury) in the first place, but since it appears he is, I'd have no problem with giving him 4 months to bring along the best version of himself. Miller doesn't look like he'll ever put in enough work, though, so I think he'd be fine for Wembley.

handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 14:38 Whyte tuning down 5 mil for a world heavyweight title fight at Wembley is just ridiculous, cant remember any of these so called contenders pulling the shite with Klitschko, fvck Miller as well, Broner just got 2 mill for fighting Pacquiao FFS

handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 14:38 Whyte tuning down 5 mil for a world heavyweight title fight at Wembley is just ridiculous, cant remember any of these so called contenders pulling the shite with Klitschko, fvck Miller as well, Broner just got 2 mill for fighting Pacquiao FFS