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jamamb wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 12:54

Oiky wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 06:10 Think Callum is a serious threat to him,but bill beats him,nonetheless a fight I want to see! That's what boxings about at the end of the day,the fights we wanna see,we can all be guilty of over analyising things to death,things that don't concern us in reality,and things we stand to earn no serious monetary gain out of,even chucking dough down for a bet is only a bit of sport

I get a bit sick of all the he said she said between promoters& all that lark,I know it's a huge part of boxing,but nowhere near as big as "the fight" and should never be....

who at 168 and 160 do you think beats bill

The one with the best chance is Callum smith, I think he can beat any of the possible fighters in front of him on his day,on his day bill is world class & no easy task

If he doesn't turn up though,the likes of Andrade,canelo,ggg,smith,Ramirez can beat him can't they...but talent & boxing wise bill is unreal & if he's switched on and up for it can beat anyone

Bit of a sitting on the fence answer which I generally try to avoid,but that's truthfully how I see it,he's capable & skilful enough to beat anyone but if he's going in half measures he might get busted

Deserter wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 12:31

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

We must be talking about a different Saunders - he's looked fleshy at MW at times... no way he's a decent-sized SMW.

you will see, greg will have him bang on the weight with the correct amount of muscle. look at the shape brook was in when he fought GGG.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 14:29

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

Disagree, he'll be tiny

I agree, he's not a particularly big MW.

did zurdo actually vacate yet

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 16:01

Deserter wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 12:31

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

We must be talking about a different Saunders - he's looked fleshy at MW at times... no way he's a decent-sized SMW.

you will see, greg will have him bang on the weight with the correct amount of muscle. look at the shape brook was in when he fought GGG.

Ironically you're proving my point, as think there was unanimity that whatever Brook ended up weighing against GGG, he was clearly not a natural middleweight and that showed in the way he was bullied.
Whatever BJS ends up weighing, he is not and never will be a decent-sized SMW.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 16:02

Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 14:29

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

Disagree, he'll be tiny

I agree, he's not a particularly big MW.

well, I thought that, until the one time he ever trained properly for a fight, he definitely looked a good bit bigger than Lemieux, who has a very stocky frame himself @160lbs and there has long been talk he struggles to make the weight. I thought BJS, with his 'special strength & conditioning regime' under Dom Ingle looked a pretty big muscular middleweight at that point, FWIW.

8lbs isn’t a super huge jump but BJS is definitely a middleweight. If there was money there I believe he could make 154, he will be a small SM, but so is CEJ, so is Alvarez etc

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑20 Feb 2019, 05:08 8lbs isn’t a super huge jump but BJS is definitely a middleweight. If there was money there I believe he could make 154, he will be a small SM, but so is CEJ, so is Alvarez etc

would kindly disagree sir, don't think Saunders could make 154 but agreed not the biggest SMW

Bill couldn't make 154,loves a bit of grub,a few year ago he could maybe,but not now

Oiky wrote: ↑20 Feb 2019, 07:58 Bill couldn't make 154,loves a bit of grub,a few year ago he could maybe,but not now

grub and brass all a man needs !

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑20 Feb 2019, 05:03

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 16:02

Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 14:29

rhino222 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

Disagree, he'll be tiny

I agree, he's not a particularly big MW.

well, I thought that, until the one time he ever trained properly for a fight, he definitely looked a good bit bigger than Lemieux, who has a very stocky frame himself @160lbs and there has long been talk he struggles to make the weight. I thought BJS, with his 'special strength & conditioning regime' under Dom Ingle looked a pretty big muscular middleweight at that point, FWIW.

lems kinda strange, he drains a large amount and comes in at like 180 but he always looks small at weigh ins, was the same vs ggg too. i mean gggs like average size mw himself. might be that hes not tall? seems to me there is a visual bias we have to think the taller guy pretty much always looks bigger.

not sure what your point is w/r/t Lem whether you agree or not

i do recall the commentators i heard in lem-BJS expressing surprise how much bigger BJS looked, as lem supposedly big for 160/struggles to get down there, FWIW

no point really other then despite having 'big' weights for mw lem often looks small next to even average size mws