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Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:00
by paddy chavez
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:05
by bennie
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:00
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Pat and Duke did a lot of sparring in the pros. Pat was robbed of the British super-featherweight title against John Doherty (no relation, obviously) in 1986 in the days of one judge but he later won the Commonwealth lightweight title with an impressive cuts win over Mo Hussein. I always liked watching Pat, stocky and heavy handed. He had a thrilling series with Paul Huggins, proving himself by far the better man, and he fought abroad a lot.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:08
by Coco
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:00
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
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Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Your brother was a quality fighter
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:11
by paddy chavez
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:05
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:00
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Pat and Duke did a lot of sparring in the pros. Pat was robbed of the British super-featherweight title against John Doherty (no relation, obviously) in 1986 in the days of one judge but he later won the Commonwealth lightweight title with an impressive cuts win over Mo Hussein. I always liked watching Pat, stocky and heavy handed. He had a thrilling series with Paul Huggins, proving himself by far the better man, and he fought abroad a lot.
Bloody hell bennie you certainly know your stuff , spot on it all . Huggings found god and is a preacher there's a great video of him on YouTube talking about his past life as a bit of a scally wag .
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:12
by paddy chavez
Coco wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:08
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:00
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
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Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Your brother was a quality fighter
Cheers he'd struggle to make cruiserweight now though
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:15
by bennie
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:11
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:05
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 10:00
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:48
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 09:14
bennie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 07:50
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 04:56
Bruno came round my house a couple of times when I was a kid he trained with my brother when amateur and they'd come back to ours along with Duke McKenzie and a few others
Your brother boxed for Sir Philip Game?
Yeah me too a bit Fred rix was the coach then
Did you know it then bennie
Yeah, I know that Bruno and the McKenzies boxed for Sir Philip Game. Bruno won the ABA heavyweight title in a classic encounter with Rudi Pika in 1980 and Duke reached the ABA semis in 1981 where he was surprisingly outboxed by a Welsh kid. Duke may have been boxing for Battersea by that time. Fred Rix later trained Tony Burke and possibly Devon Bailey, among others. Clinton married his daughter.
Bloody hell bennie that's some knowledge, yeah I think fred trained Tony Burke also Chris Blake ,Mike durvan and my brother Pat Doherty .
Pat and Duke did a lot of sparring in the pros. Pat was robbed of the British super-featherweight title against John Doherty (no relation, obviously) in 1986 in the days of one judge but he later won the Commonwealth lightweight title with an impressive cuts win over Mo Hussein. I always liked watching Pat, stocky and heavy handed. He had a thrilling series with Paul Huggins, proving himself by far the better man, and he fought abroad a lot.
Bloody hell bennie you certainly know your stuff , spot on it all . Huggings found god and is a preacher there's a great video of him on YouTube talking about his past life as a bit of a scally wag .
I remember when Huggins fought Pat the first time, at the Albert Hall. Pat put him down with a beautiful body shot and Huggins, on his knees, joined in the count with the timekeeper. It is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 10:27
by paddy chavez
Yeah he was a bit of a Looney huggings , I didn't go to their first fight but I went to the other's I think the next one was at catford/lewisham town hall I was about 13 at the time and the fight paid for his wedding shortly after
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 09:26
by bennie
Was it his wife who jumped in the ring when he stopped Hussein?
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 11:42
by Terminator666
30 years
seems like last week
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 15:09
by nobleart1978
Tyson v Bruno 1 WAS NOT on Itv.
It was live on radio 2. Ian Darke did the commentary.
BBC1 showed it delayed the next day on the sunday afternoon and again later that evening.
It was not on sky. The first fight was shown at selected cinemas on closed circuit.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 16:18
by bigjack
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 15:09
Tyson v Bruno 1 WAS NOT on Itv.
It was live on radio 2. Ian Darke did the commentary.
BBC1 showed it delayed the next day on the sunday afternoon and again later that evening.
It was not on sky. The first fight was shown at selected cinemas on closed circuit.
I watched it in a local small hotel
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 03:33
by paddy chavez
bennie wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 09:26
Was it his wife who jumped in the ring when he stopped Hussein?
It could of been ,. There's a picture of my mum in the ring as well
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 08:18
by stujones
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 15:09
Tyson v Bruno 1 WAS NOT on Itv.
It was live on radio 2. Ian Darke did the commentary.
BBC1 showed it delayed the next day on the sunday afternoon and again later that evening.
It was not on sky. The first fight was shown at selected cinemas on closed circuit.
Only successful title defence of Tyson's first reign that was not shown on ITV. Everything before and since was shown in full on ITV - not always live.
Douglas fight was on Sky and I think the BBC aquired rights to show it after. I think they showed it about a week later.
Amazing to remember just how mainstream Tyson was.... kids, who aren't even boxing fans, still talk about Tyson today.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 08:31
by bennie
I lived through that horrendous 'lost generation' era of heavies in the first half of the 1980s, with Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks doing their bit to add credibility to the division but the likes of Weaver, Dokes, Page, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Coetzee, Bonecrusher and even Bruno were painful to watch after the heavyweight golden era of the 1970s. Then along came Tyson and for two glorious years between 1986 and 1988 he was up there with the best in boxing history. Sadly, the Bruno defence indicated a real erosion of his skills as the 'yes men' infiltrated his camp and his life spiralled out of control and ultimately cost him three years in jail.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 28 Feb 2019, 09:00
by stujones
bennie wrote: ↑28 Feb 2019, 08:31
I lived through that horrendous 'lost generation' era of heavies in the first half of the 1980s, with Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks doing their bit to add credibility to the division but the likes of Weaver, Dokes, Page, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Coetzee, Bonecrusher and even Bruno were painful to watch after the heavyweight golden era of the 1970s. Then along came Tyson and for two glorious years between 1986 and 1988 he was up there with the best in boxing history. Sadly, the Bruno defence indicated a real erosion of his skills as the 'yes men' infiltrated his camp and his life spiralled out of control and ultimately cost him three years in jail.
I think it will always be one of the great debates in boxing - Tyson post Douglas, who at least had shown some motivation and some decent "fight" even if his skills had eroded somewhat vs Holyfield. I think the 1996 versions of them was closer to a peak Holyfield than a peak Tyson - indeed, it might even be argued that Holyfield finally became a full fledged Heavyweight by 1996. His pre Bowe 1 reign, he was good, but it was hardly an inspired set of title defenses - Nearly nearly KO'd vs Cooper, and lacklusture wins vs the Ancient Holmes and Foreman. ... indeed, many of the commentators at Sky, were being very disrespectful to Holyfield by calling Tyson the "uncrowned champion"..... partly alluding to the "long count" in Tokyo but also I felt alluding to Holyfield not looking great and Tyson looking alright in his fights.
I'm partly supportive of the view that Holyfield psychologically always had his number, but he was so small in 1990/1991. Would he have had the strength to bully Tyson as he could in 1996.
Tyson did look pretty good vs Carl Williams. Its a shame Tubbs had motivation / personal life issues - he was a real talent. Fast hands and fast feet, looks were deceiving for him.
Re: Get in there Frank, 30 years ago!!
Posted: 01 Mar 2019, 07:01
by Terminator666
Tyson only 22 and already arguably passed his peak