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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 19:06

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 16:16 I wasn't citing an exception. I was correcting your pathetic post.

Please quote the sentence(s) in my post that was factually inaccurate.

Please explain the reason why you mentioned Shannon Briggs.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 19:06

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 16:16 I wasn't citing an exception. I was correcting your pathetic post.

Please quote the sentence(s) in my post that was factually inaccurate.

Please explain the reason why you mentioned Shannon Briggs.

candyslim wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 15:01 I agree. It's hard to argue that Fury has made a mistake in accepting the 80m deal, that's a lot of reasons to take it and it bestows great financial security, always assuming Fury hangs in there for the duration and doesn't go off the rails before he's delivered his half of the bargain.

I struggle to see how it's a good deal for Arum. That's quite some outlay to recoup and as has been mentioned already, how many opponents are there for Fury that are going to complement Tyson's style, and produce (AAA) an exciting spectacle - ahem, cough, cough and (BBB) generate a decent financial return on Arum's investment?

It sounds to me like a very tall order but I guess Arum hasn't got to where he he's at by f*cking up. How he makes it work might be more entertaining that what Fury does in the ring

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:27 Wilder understands he was pretty lucky overall to steal a draw against a still somewhat rusty Fury, and he also understands that Fury will likely win the rematch. Joshua presents different problems, but also much more money. Joshua is also a more winnable fight for Wilder, so no surprise here.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 05:26

candyslim wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 15:01 I agree. It's hard to argue that Fury has made a mistake in accepting the 80m deal, that's a lot of reasons to take it and it bestows great financial security, always assuming Fury hangs in there for the duration and doesn't go off the rails before he's delivered his half of the bargain.

I struggle to see how it's a good deal for Arum. That's quite some outlay to recoup and as has been mentioned already, how many opponents are there for Fury that are going to complement Tyson's style, and produce (AAA) an exciting spectacle - ahem, cough, cough and (BBB) generate a decent financial return on Arum's investment?

It sounds to me like a very tall order but I guess Arum hasn't got to where he he's at by f*cking up. How he makes it work might be more entertaining that what Fury does in the ring

I don’t know enough about the financial justification for ESPN’s $103.5m outlay. I also don’t know if it was partially-funded by BT either. The articles I’ve read suggests that both parties were in partnership and financed this deal.

Correctly me if I’m wrong though, the deal equates to Top Rank and Queensberry Promotions (by proxy of ESPN & BT) having to fork out (on average) $20.7m per fight, since the deal covers five bouts.

BT/ESPN’s $103.5m deal with Tyson Fury may sound unreasonably huge, to the point Arum and his partners could suffer losses, but I’d expect Fury’s bouts to generate far more than $20m per fight and Top Rank also gain partial control over the heavyweight division. Their deal actually takes money out of their rivals pockets.

It’s clear that Bob Arum uses the ESPN name to sign talent to Top Rank. He then uses the newly-signed marquee names, coupled with offering huge purses, as part of his strategy to leverage (or lure) free agents into signing multi-fight promotional deals with Top Rank (as per the terms of Arum’s offer to Wilder for the Fury rematch).

The problem is, this strategy doesn’t always work, because Terence Crawford, Vasyl Lomachenko, Jose Ramirez, Oscar Valdez, or Gilberto Ramirez don’t have any truly competitive fights lined-up. The same might apply to Tyson Fury if the PBC and Matchroom refuse to play ball.

There are a lot of reasons why Tyson Fury’s $103.5m deal could potentially make a lot of financial sense for Top Rank & ESPN, since they: gain partial control over the heavyweight division; the deal could attract new talent to join Arum’s stable; and the Brit’s fights could generate far more than $20m per fight.

Fury’s $103.5m deal with ESPN could also potentially be the sport of boxing’s equivalent of a supermarket loss leader, where the financial cost of their product offering (i.e. Tyson) is far outweighed by the benefits they receive elsewhere.

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:31

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 11:51

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

This guy might be one of my "multiple accounts" because I don't like Wilder either. He's no good in more ways than one, but he has a dynamite punch and deep pocket handlers (King Kong Ortiz' words) and that's all. He was supposed to have a rematch with Fury so I want to see the rematch with Fury, OK?

Just don´t lower yourself to the American idiots with their fantasy their level, they will beat you on experience if you try.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:22

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:31

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 11:51

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

This guy might be one of my "multiple accounts" because I don't like Wilder either. He's no good in more ways than one, but he has a dynamite punch and deep pocket handlers (King Kong Ortiz' words) and that's all. He was supposed to have a rematch with Fury so I want to see the rematch with Fury, OK?

Just don´t lower yourself to the American idiots with their fantasy their level, they will beat you on experience if you try.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:28

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:22

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:31

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑04 Mar 2019, 11:51

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

This guy might be one of my "multiple accounts" because I don't like Wilder either. He's no good in more ways than one, but he has a dynamite punch and deep pocket handlers (King Kong Ortiz' words) and that's all. He was supposed to have a rematch with Fury so I want to see the rematch with Fury, OK?

Just don´t lower yourself to the American idiots with their fantasy their level, they will beat you on experience if you try.

I Iove it when you engage in debates with your various alter egos.

It separates the nuts from the whackjobs.

dharma.dad wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 14:35 "AJ wants nothing to do with Wilder"

?????

So, thats why hes made him around 7 offers? All for the biggest pay day of his life.

getnada wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 06:53

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 14:41

dharma.dad wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 14:35 "AJ wants nothing to do with Wilder"

?????

So, thats why hes made him around 7 offers? All for the biggest pay day of his life.

They both want each other. Biggest fight around so long as they remain unbeaten.

Wilder does NOT want to face AJ because he's scared and so are his fans. They know the truth, but continue to spread the lies. Wilder just ducked a 100 mil dollar offer for fighting some leftovers of AJ.

getnada wrote: ↑17 Mar 2019, 03:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 10:36

getnada wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 06:53

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 14:41

dharma.dad wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 14:35 "AJ wants nothing to do with Wilder"

?????

So, thats why hes made him around 7 offers? All for the biggest pay day of his life.

They both want each other. Biggest fight around so long as they remain unbeaten.

Wilder does NOT want to face AJ because he's scared and so are his fans. They know the truth, but continue to spread the lies. Wilder just ducked a 100 mil dollar offer for fighting some leftovers of AJ.

Most appropriate name on the boards!

Nearly any name is better then some baby gibberish as a name, just grow up lol.