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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 02:32
by Best Coast
greg wrote: ↑19 Mar 2019, 14:07
...you can't help feeling none of the top 3 is anxious to fight each other for WHATEVER reason..
You may be right but we may get to watch all 3 of them fight against other guys in a 4-week span from May 18-June 15
May 18 Wilder-Breazeale
June 1 Joshua-Miller
June 15 Fury-TBA Looks like Arum has scheduled Tyson Fury vs TBA at Thomas & Mack Center
https://www.BS.com/tyson-fury- ... pn--137108
Boxing fans can now look forward to the “big three” at heavyweight all fighting just weeks apart from another—even if they remain far apart in facing each other anytime soon.
A four-week span from mid-May through mid-June will see Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury in the ring, in separate bouts and all coming on separate platforms. BS.com has learned that Fury will return to the ring on June 15, making his first career appearance in Las Vegas atop a card to be staged at the Thomas & Mack Center.
An opponent has yet to be solidified for the event, which will stream live on ESPN+ in the first fight under the unbeaten Brit’s new co-promotional pact with Top Rank and ESPN.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 09:09
by Fightnight Scores
Anyone for a Miller / Breazeale double at 26/1
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:28
by Nightmare Roy
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 09:09
Anyone for a Miller / Breazeale double at 26/1
That would be so funny if it happened
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:32
by tiny_acres
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 09:09
Anyone for a Miller / Breazeale double at 26/1
Hell for fun I think I'd drop $25 on this
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:36
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:32
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 09:09
Anyone for a Miller / Breazeale double at 26/1
Hell for fun I think I'd drop $25 on this
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:38
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:32
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 09:09
Anyone for a Miller / Breazeale double at 26/1
Hell for fun I think I'd drop $25 on this
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
I'm a fan of all 3 fighters but I'd find sweet justice in all of them losing. After all of the avoidance it would be funny
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:42
by greg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:57
by tiny_acres
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
It would definitely bring those egos in check
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 10:59
by greg
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:57
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
It would definitely bring those egos in check
..and it's about time too
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 11:00
by tiny_acres
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:59
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:57
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
It would definitely bring those egos in check
..and it's about time too
No joke. It's gotten out of hand
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 11:15
by Fightnight Scores
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 11:00
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:59
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:57
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
It would definitely bring those egos in check
..and it's about time too
No joke. It's gotten out of hand
I'm in for this as well! A massive spanner in this shit tip of a heavyweight merry go round might just be the only thing that the forum could fully agree on!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 11:20
by tiny_acres
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 11:15
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 11:00
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:59
tiny_acres wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:57
greg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 10:36
Just imagine.. Miller beats Joshua, Breazeale beats Wilder and Fury’s opponent beats him... all in the space of 4 weeks!!
Now that would be something.
..I actually don't mind seeing these upsets, might hopefully bring some divas down a peg or two...
It would definitely bring those egos in check
..and it's about time too
No joke. It's gotten out of hand
I'm in for this as well! A massive spanner in this poo tip of a heavyweight merry go round might just be the only thing that the forum could fully agree on!
Each of the three have some diehard fans that would be so pissed. I like all 3 but just like when Wlad was champ I always wanted an upset
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 11:32
by Enlightened-One
What I’d like to know is where does Dillian Whyte fit into the WBC’s plans?
Mauricio Sulaimán allowed ‘The Bronze Bomber’ to engage in five successive voluntary defences of his WBC title, over an almost three-year time period, prior to facing his first mandatory challenger (an opponent that didn’t even earn this status). And the time Wilder enters the ring to face Beazeale, 18 months would have passed since the Stiverne rematch.
It seems that Wilder’s fight against Breazeale is going to be classed as only his second mandatory title defence, despite Dillian Whyte’s lawyers contacting the WBC to protest this situation, which means that Deontay won’t be forced to face the long-term highest rated British challenger for a considerable period of time.
Eddie Hearn lowballed Dillian Whyte to dishonestly claim that 'The Body Snatcher' turned down an opportunity to face AJ, but the reality is that Matchroom and DAZN are far more interested in in building Anthony Joshua’s fanbase in the US.
In fact, it seems that Hearn is less focussed on the British side of the Matchroom business nowadays, which has resulted in fewer shows being staged in the UK, with a noticeable drop in quality, being televised by Sky.
It seems that Eddie is trying to exploit the opportunity to cash-in on the massive influx of money currently surrounding the US boxing market whilst he can.
It’s clear to me that Dillian Whyte has become a long-term member of the “Who needs you?” club, hence the reason we’re seeing disappointing world title bouts, such as AJ-Miller and Wilder-Breazeale.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 12:24
by Thomastearns
Of course Matchroom and DAZN are looking to build up Joshua in the States. What do they need Whyte for?
Boxing is a business where everyone wants a return on their investment. Some decide to follow the rules and stay within the law, some don't.
Sure it can be dressed up as a sport where two boxers face off on equal terms, but that's often only window dressing. There's usually a A side and a B side and the real fighting revolves largely around that. Most of it legal and vicious. And it can go on for months and months, sometimes even years. The fighters are often puppets, needing to consult with half a dozen 'partners' before they can 'choose' who they want to fight. Is it any wonder we regularly miss out on so many big fights.
Luckily we can pick and choose which fights we want to watch. Doesn't take too long to spot the real promises of action from the fake ones as they try various schemes to separate the fans from their money.
For me, AJ, Wilder, Whyte (+maybe Usyk soon) are where the heavyweight action is. Not Top Rank v the DAZN, although that isn't without interest. The sanctioning bodies and belts on the other hand are almost a joke and can be largely disregarded.
Watching boxing today is a matter of ignoring the hype and just picking a fighter you like. There is no logical system in place and it's the only sport crazy enough to be run like this.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 15:42
by oogiebe
In light of Fury vs Jennings, this fight is looking pretty good all of a sudden!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 23 Mar 2019, 07:50
by Winter king
Evander wrote: ↑19 Mar 2019, 13:08
I'll watch it but I'm not overly excited about the opponent.
Sounds like Wilder and Fury are lining up easy win opponents before the rematch.
Question is where does this leave Anthony Joshua in terms of future foes.
Hardly like the division is bustling with talent, the Miller fight hasn't exactly got me pumped up and with Fury v Wilder 2 sure to be the next bout after who does Joshua have in mind that will buy him some respect points.
Lets hope Usyk is the new Holyfield. That would make things very interesting.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 26 Mar 2019, 06:09
by Evander
Winter king wrote: ↑23 Mar 2019, 07:50
Evander wrote: ↑19 Mar 2019, 13:08
I'll watch it but I'm not overly excited about the opponent.
Sounds like Wilder and Fury are lining up easy win opponents before the rematch.
Question is where does this leave Anthony Joshua in terms of future foes.
Hardly like the division is bustling with talent, the Miller fight hasn't exactly got me pumped up and with Fury v Wilder 2 sure to be the next bout after who does Joshua have in mind that will buy him some respect points.
Lets hope Usyk is the new Holyfield. That would make things very interesting.
Between him and Whyte ?
Usyk max 218
Whyte carries a punch
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 13:55
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 14:36
by Thomastearns
Deontay Wilder - the most charismatic, explosive, action packed fighter in the world today. Him and Joshua have restored heavyweight boxing to its rightful place after decades of decline.
I really hope he doesn't get screwed by that terrible trio of Finkel, DiBella and Haymon.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 14:56
by lillywhite14
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 11:32
What I’d like to know is where does Dillian Whyte fit into the WBC’s plans?
Mauricio Sulaimán allowed ‘The Bronze Bomber’ to engage in five successive voluntary defences of his WBC title, over an almost three-year time period, prior to facing his first mandatory challenger (an opponent that didn’t even earn this status). And the time Wilder enters the ring to face Beazeale, 18 months would have passed since the Stiverne rematch.
It seems that Wilder’s fight against Breazeale is going to be classed as only his second mandatory title defence, despite Dillian Whyte’s lawyers contacting the WBC to protest this situation, which means that Deontay won’t be forced to face the long-term highest rated British challenger for a considerable period of time.
Eddie Hearn lowballed Dillian Whyte to dishonestly claim that 'The Body Snatcher' turned down an opportunity to face AJ, but the reality is that Matchroom and DAZN are far more interested in in building Anthony Joshua’s fanbase in the US.
In fact, it seems that Hearn is less focussed on the British side of the Matchroom business nowadays, which has resulted in fewer shows being staged in the UK, with a noticeable drop in quality, being televised by Sky.
It seems that Eddie is trying to exploit the opportunity to cash-in on the massive influx of money currently surrounding the US boxing market whilst he can.
It’s clear to me that Dillian Whyte has become a long-term member of the “Who needs you?” club, hence the reason we’re seeing disappointing world title bouts, such as AJ-Miller and Wilder-Breazeale.
Got to feel a bit for Whyte but not too much. He deserves the fight ahead of Breazeale, no doubt, but he can’t keep moaning about it when he turned down £5m/£6m for a shot at 3 world titles against Joshua!
He needs to admit he wants the WBC because he has a better chance of winning it and then if he does, getting a bigger piece of the pie when Joshua beats him up again.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 19:12
by Enlightened-One
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 14:56
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Mar 2019, 11:32
What I’d like to know is where does Dillian Whyte fit into the WBC’s plans?
Mauricio Sulaimán allowed ‘The Bronze Bomber’ to engage in five successive voluntary defences of his WBC title, over an almost three-year time period, prior to facing his first mandatory challenger (an opponent that didn’t even earn this status). And the time Wilder enters the ring to face Beazeale, 18 months would have passed since the Stiverne rematch.
It seems that Wilder’s fight against Breazeale is going to be classed as only his second mandatory title defence, despite Dillian Whyte’s lawyers contacting the WBC to protest this situation, which means that Deontay won’t be forced to face the long-term highest rated British challenger for a considerable period of time.
Eddie Hearn lowballed Dillian Whyte to dishonestly claim that 'The Body Snatcher' turned down an opportunity to face AJ, but the reality is that Matchroom and DAZN are far more interested in in building Anthony Joshua’s fanbase in the US.
In fact, it seems that Hearn is less focussed on the British side of the Matchroom business nowadays, which has resulted in fewer shows being staged in the UK, with a noticeable drop in quality, being televised by Sky.
It seems that Eddie is trying to exploit the opportunity to cash-in on the massive influx of money currently surrounding the US boxing market whilst he can.
It’s clear to me that Dillian Whyte has become a long-term member of the “Who needs you?” club, hence the reason we’re seeing disappointing world title bouts, such as AJ-Miller and Wilder-Breazeale.
Got to feel a bit for Whyte but not too much. He deserves the fight ahead of Breazeale, no doubt, but he can’t keep moaning about it when he turned down £5m/£6m for a shot at 3 world titles against Joshua!
He needs to admit he wants the WBC because he has a better chance of winning it and then if he does, getting a bigger piece of the pie when Joshua beats him up again.
Eddie conceded that Whyte’s purse for the AJ bout was less than what he received for the Chisora rematch.
Miller is receiving a better payday than what Whyte was offered.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 19:32
by Rob3_142
To be fair to Whyte, he's already headlining PPV's and earning a decent return. He'd be contributing more financially to a re-match than Wilder would, so he should be paid accordingly.
They offered Whyte that offer knowing full well he was going to turn it down. It was a token offer whilst they were trying to tie down Wilder.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 19:52
by oogiebe
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 19:32
To be fair to Whyte, he's already headlining PPV's and earning a decent return. He'd be contributing more financially to a re-match than Wilder would, so he should be paid accordingly.
They offered Whyte that offer knowing full well he was going to turn it down. It was a token offer whilst they were trying to tie down Wilder.
If Whyte could bring in more buys than Wilder than Eddie would've made the deal. It's just not so.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 04:19
by candyslim
Thomastearns wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 14:36
Deontay Wilder - the most charismatic, explosive, action packed fighter in the world today. Him and Joshua have restored heavyweight boxing to its rightful place after decades of decline.
I really hope he doesn't get screwed by that terrible trio of Finkel, DiBella and Haymon.
You make that sound like something that might, but hopefully won't, happen in the future. To me it's an ongoing process. As I see it, their collective lack of faith in his ability / potential, over the span of his career, has robbed him of the chance to develop as a boxer, and to go down in boxing lore as a hell of a fighter who fought the best around and was largely successful.
What is his legacy going to look like now? And if the unthinkable should happen and Breazeale improves on the performance of his French equivalent, Johann Duhaupas, by beating Wilder, what happens then? Is Al going to compensatie him for the loss of $100m (maybe that should be $20m as I guess the balance was dependent upon his beating Breazeale)?
He looks like ending his career regarded with contempt by many who consider him as an overprotected fraud who consistently looked for the path of least resistance, ducking the best opponents or fighting them at their most vulnerable. I don't know how culpable Wilder is but most of the blame has be laid at his management team. It never should have been that way.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Dominic Breazeale - May 18, 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 07:01
by Rob3_142
oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 19:52
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 19:32
To be fair to Whyte, he's already headlining PPV's and earning a decent return. He'd be contributing more financially to a re-match than Wilder would, so he should be paid accordingly.
They offered Whyte that offer knowing full well he was going to turn it down. It was a token offer whilst they were trying to tie down Wilder.
If Whyte could bring in more buys than Wilder than Eddie would've made the deal. It's just not so.
Wait, which deal are you referring to?
Hearn offered Wilder his biggest pay day (prior to Fury) to fight Whyte.