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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 06:45

Is Robert Byrd any relation to Adelaide Byrd?

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 10:56 Boxing is crooked everyplace...but why did they import a referee from the infamous Byrd family from the crookedest city on earth, far away Las Vegas, that's what I want to know!

Lots of referees have raised my eyebrows with questionable officiating. Robert Byrd has usually been alright as I recall. His job in the Breidis vs Glowacki fight is probably some of the worst officiating I've seen him do, but prior to that, stuff's not coming to mind of shady sh*t he'd been involved in.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 12:49 Is Robert Byrd any relation to Adelaide Byrd?

No idea. I've never paid much attention to referees or judges. Trainers either for that matter.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 13:19 No idea. I've never paid much attention to referees or judges. Trainers either for that matter.

aren't they a husband and wife?

greg wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 13:21 aren't they a husband and wife?

Yes, they are.

Both of them have been officiating since the 90s.

Haven't heard much negative chirping about the Byrds until recently.

You referee or judge for that long and there's bound to be performances that will be questioned.

But some seem go out of their way to find fault.

greg wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 13:21 aren't they a husband and wife?

Don't know.

The 2 Byrd's are a blissfully wedded couple.

Robert Byrd is a HOF honored referee.

Gokovkin reportedly preferred him to referee the second fight with Canelo.

apparently briedis is vastly more entertaining when fouled, hopefully dort rabbit punches him too

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 14:48 The 2 Byrd's are a blissfully wedded couple.

Robert Byrd is a HOF honored referee.

Gokovkin reportedly preferred him to referee the second fight with Canelo.

He may be a younger brother of John Lennon or Michael Jackson, but he has been below zero yesterday.

ValMar wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 14:55 He may be a younger brother of John Lennon or Michael Jackson, but he has been below zero yesterday.

That's not true.

I never heard anything about John Lennon having a younger brother.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 15:41 That's not true.

I never heard anything about John Lennon having a younger brother.

Wasn't Michael Jackson his younger brother?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 14:48 Robert Byrd is a HOF honored referee.

Mother Time doesn't just get boxers. It gets officials too.

his credentials are irrelevant to whether it was a good or bad job, he clearly was not on the ball there

DrDuke wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 02:41 No way it should be NC.

No way. Briedis should be penalized only for a one thing - elbowing. 1 point is a maximum of a punishment here. Fighting after the bell wasn't a foul, because boxers stop fighting not with a bell, but with a separation by a ref. The ref didn't hear the bell, he didn't separate the fighters, so everything was OK. NC should be made for violations from fighters' side, here it was the ref's mistake. You can't take away a victory from a fighter because of bad refereeing.

In the current situation Glowacki would lose anyway, I believe. He was battered for good even during the actual time of the round. Glowacki should blame only himself. For punching at the back of the head, for too much of pretending to be hurt from the elbow, for making Briedis angry and for not being able to weather the storm.

The fight itself was fun to watch.

I'd say, it should have been 2 points off from Briedis, because Glowacki was hurt. Glowacki also should have been given 5 minutes to recover. The referee should have stopped the fight at the end of round 2. Things would have been a bit different then, albeit Briedis was angry because of the rabbit punch (and also to himself because of the way he responded) and would have knocked Glowacki out in round 3 anyway.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 14:48 Robert Byrd is a HOF honored referee.
Gokovkin reportedly preferred him to referee the second fight with Canelo.

Good for him, so I guess he should hurry to retire still as HOF honored referee. Because the last fight showed he is no longer able to react properly when needed.

Should be a NC.

And anybody has any idea why does Briedis fight at his hometown all time? Why other boxers in Ali tournament should always accept to fight him in Latvia?

reckbox wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 13:34 I'd say, it should have been 2 points off from Briedis, because Glowacki was hurt. Glowacki also should have been given 5 minutes to recover. The referee should have stopped the fight at the end of round 2. Things would have been a bit different then, albeit Briedis was angry because of the rabbit punch (and also to himself because of the way he responded) and would have knocked Glowacki out in round 3 anyway.

I mostly agree with this interpretation of events. It was a bad reffing job from Byrd but I don't think it changed the outcome.

Glowacki's team should appeal, it won't make a difference in the tournament format but having it changed to a NC and a rematch being called is quite conceivable.

Problem is, who does he appeal to? Even Kalle wasn't sure what belts were on the line when interviewed after the fight (and he knows more about lines than most).

I understand those who say it made little difference as everytime they exchanged Glowacki ended up on his back, whether they were exchanging fouls after a break or having an all out tear up between rounds, the outcome was always the same.
I'm sure had they had a punch up in the car park after it would have been Glowacki coming off worse again.

But that is irrelevant, as Glowacki would argue that going to war with Briedis wasn't part of the gameplan. The fight turned into a slugfest due to piss poor officiating.

The boxing commission/board/federation in Latvia should have the jurisdiction to declare the no contest.

Glowacki’s manager and promoter, Andrew Wasilewski, has already stated that he intends to protest the official ruling and he alleges that Briedis has confirmed in interviews that the elbow was intentional and that he had heard the bell.

A Briedis team member was also inside the ropes, which should have resulted in a disqualification loss for Mairis (as per Eddie Hearn's fears when he prematurely entered the ring for the Froch-Bute fight),

If all three claims are true, with Team Glowacki able to supply evidence to support their accusations then the fight might be ruled a no-contest or even a DQ loss for Briedis, though I think the former is far more likely.

I think it’s irrelevant that Briedis might be a better fighter than Glowacki, because if you break the rules, then you deserve to be punished.

And whilst it’s clear that Krzysztof got away with the rabbit punch that initiated Mairis’ retaliation, the ref didn’t see that foul, which means he can’t be punished for it, but Robert Byrd definitely witnessed Briedis’ elbow.

RINGSIDE24 : WBO and WBC did not sanction Briedis vs. Glowacki fight.
I admit that I don't understand anything about this fight.
Who, the fukc. is WBO CW champion now ? Who, the fukc, is WBC CW champion now ? Who is IBF CW champion now ?
Can anyone understand this mess ?

ValMar wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 12:53 RINGSIDE24 : WBO and WBC did not sanction Briedis vs. Glowacki fight.
I admit that I don't understand anything about this fight.
Who, the fukc. is WBO CW champion now ? Who, the fukc, is WBC CW champion now ? Who is IBF CW champion now ?
Can anyone understand this mess ?

WBC: vacant
https://wbcboxing.com/en/cruiserweight/

WBO: Usyk (Super)
https://www.wboboxing.com/wp-content/themes/wbo/pdf.php

IBF: Usyk
http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:04 WBC: vacant
https://wbcboxing.com/en/cruiserweight/

WBO: Usyk (Super)
https://www.wboboxing.com/wp-content/themes/wbo/pdf.php

IBF: Usyk
http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/

It's not actual. Glowacki was upgraded 10 days before the fight. If this fight was unsanctioned then he is still a champion.

So the wbo belt wasn't oficially at stake so if they will award it to Briedis it will be a huge scandal