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Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:09
by oogiebe
punchoutsb wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 17:58 He's fought Wlad and Wilder. He's got the best resume of anyone relevant. Now he's just positioning himself to earn as much as he can for any future "mega fights". As you say, he isn't a title holder so moving himself up the boards will clearly help force a fight if needed, and help at the table since negotiations will likely be tense and being able to sing may not be enough despite what some here may think.
He doesn't have the best resume. Beating a faded Wlad and drawing with Wilder are only two fights and the Wlad fight was a nightmare to watch. He can sign to fight Wilder in a rematch tomorrow if he chooses. But he'll take one more tomato can in October or so.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:13
by greg
..just because Joshua lost his last fight and Fury won, I'm not prepared to reconsider their respective resumes in Fury's favour...

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:14
by punchoutsb
oogiebe wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:09 He doesn't have the best resume. Beating a faded Wlad and drawing with Wilder are only two fights and the Wlad fight was a nightmare to watch. He can sign to fight Wilder in a rematch tomorrow if he chooses. But he'll take one more tomato can in October or so.
His resume is better than Wilder and Ruiz and is at the very worst comparable to AJ. I'd say better than all three.

Wilder is fighting Ortiz next so it doesn't make much sense to sign a contract to fight someone who may not even be there.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:19
by ewenhay
punchoutsb wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 17:56 We disagree. :TU:
Fair enough

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:21
by oogiebe
punchoutsb wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:14 His resume is better than Wilder and Ruiz and is at the very worst comparable to AJ. I'd say better than all three.

Wilder is fighting Ortiz next so it doesn't make much sense to sign a contract to fight someone who may not even be there.
Sorry boss, but Wilder and AJ have better resume's. Fury's is thin. Ruiz doesn't (we can maybe argue he does if he wins the rematch).

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:26
by punchoutsb
oogiebe wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:21 Sorry boss, but Wilder and AJ have better resume's. Fury's is thin. Ruiz doesn't (we can maybe argue he does if he wins the rematch).
Wilder's resume is terrible. Klitschko alone wins that one for Fury. If you're looking at depth of the entire resume then Wilder needs about 40 more fights to catch Fury.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:43
by oogiebe
punchoutsb wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:26 Wilder's resume is terrible. Klitschko alone wins that one for Fury. If you're looking at depth of the entire resume then Wilder needs about 40 more fights to catch Fury.
Now I know you are joking. :lol:

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:52
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:43 Now I know you are joking. :lol:
Too many let their hatred blind the facts

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 18:54
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:52 Too many let their hatred blind the facts
More like fanboy posting. I don't have the patience for that anymore.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:00
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:54 More like fanboy posting. I don't have the patience for that anymore.
I'm just blown away by the same posters bashing a fighters resume. When by boxrec numbers and a quick glance at their recent accomplishments proves them wrong.
Wilder did have an easy road to the title. But he has proven he is among the top 4 easily

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:02
by funso banjo baby
if wilder, aj, ruiz, whyte, parker cant be done then id like either Pulev or Price just for fun

:box:

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:18
by gilgamesh
HomicideHenry wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 17:18 Bleh.... If he ain't fighting anyone who makes any sort of sense beyond dollars and cents I'm losing interest fast in Fury.

If all he's ever wanted was some sort of fanfare and attention he's not the man I thought he was. That's crybaby bullshit.

Then again.... Only Rocky Marciano didn't avoid anyone. Everyone else picked and chose who they wanted to fight and when and where and for how much.

Still, I'm sorely pissed. What's the sense in being a die-hard fan from the beginning, defending the best man on the planet, if he's going to revert into some sort of player like all the rest.

"You sold out!", is all I keep seeing in my head. Just another damn wannabe celebrity. Real fighters DEMAND facing the best out there. An easy one now and then for show, then it's down to business.
Well I mean...he's already scheduled to fight Wilder early next year. Fighting another guy in the meantime, regardless of his level is admirable really because a lot of guys would just wait around for the big fight next year.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:22
by tiny_acres
gilgamesh wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:18 Well I mean...he's already scheduled to fight Wilder early next year. Fighting another guy in the meantime, regardless of his level is admirable really because a lot of guys would just wait around for the big fight next year.
Fury has denied that he is fighting Wilder.
He says no contracts gave been signed

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:32
by gilgamesh
tiny_acres wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:22 Fury has denied that he is fighting Wilder.
He says no contracts gave been signed
Alright then.

I like that better actually as it means there's more possibilities. He can fight the Joshua/Ruiz 2 winner. He can fight Wilder again. Other interesting contenders in the meantime too.

Frankly Wilder being assured to fight Ortiz AND Fury in back to back bouts was pretty hard to believe for me anyway. It's actually interesting to know it's Fury who's backing off the idea of the two.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:33
by ironbeard
gilgamesh wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:18 Well I mean...he's already scheduled to fight Wilder early next year. Fighting another guy in the meantime, regardless of his level is admirable really because a lot of guys would just wait around for the big fight next year.
They are considering Persoon, right?

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:35
by ewenhay
tiny_acres wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:22 Fury has denied that he is fighting Wilder.
He says no contracts gave been signed

No contracts have been signed but if you watch the post fight press conference all roads lead to the Wilder rematch in the spring.

Fury actually said he was hunting down Wilder, not sure how you've managed to read it differently

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:35
by ironbeard
Meanwhile, Wilder is giving Ortiz another opportunity to son him and TFKoB is doing what Fury could not accomplish.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:37
by gilgamesh
ironbeard wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:33 They are considering Persoon, right?
I figure they'd at least pick a Heavyweight lady if they're going the circus route :lol:

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:39
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 18:54 More like fanboy posting. I don't have the patience for that anymore.
We can all support fighters without being blind to the facts surely?

I think Fury is the best and out of the three including him, Wilder and Joshua I'd like Fury to come out on top.

But he's got plenty flaws and weaknesses just like the other two have. He also needs to walk the walk consistently now if he wants to prove he's the best.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:40
by ewenhay
ironbeard wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:35 Meanwhile, Wilder is giving Ortiz another opportunity to son him and TFKoB is doing what Fury could not accomplish.
Now you're just blatantly trolling

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:43
by ironbeard
ewenhay wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:39 We can all support fighters without being blind to the facts surely?

I think Fury is the best and out of the three including him, Wilder and Joshua I'd like Fury to come out on top.

But he's got plenty flaws and weaknesses just like the other two have. He also needs to walk the walk consistently now if he wants to prove he's the best.
What you think does not mean fvck all. Fury has not won a thing in his comeback. When he does I will let you know, since your bias is showing. :OhYes:

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:46
by ironbeard
ewenhay wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:40 Now you're just blatantly trolling
How’s that Furymuncher? Fury fought the least challenging challenger, by light years. His fanboys are already rationalizing the next no hoper.

Tell me what I am missing.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:48
by ewenhay
ironbeard wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:43 What you think does not mean fvck all. Fury has not won a thing in his comeback. When he does I will let you know, since your bias is showing. :OhYes:

Bit arrogant there.

Bias?

I think not. I was critical of him choosing Schwartz as an opponent and he's got plenty of flaws. I voted Joshua as no. 1 in the box rec ranking thread and Fury as 3 when it was set up.

I've also said that Fury needs to prove he's the best.

I think you're just trolling which is becoming a habit of yours.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:49
by ewenhay
ironbeard wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:46 How’s that Furymuncher? Fury fought the least challenging challenger, by light years. His fanboys are already rationalizing the next no hoper.

Tell me what I am missing.
I dont have enough time to list all the things you are missing.

I suggest you step away from the keyboard and sober up. You're embarrassing yourself.

Re: Who shoud Fury fight next ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 19:50
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 19:39 We can all support fighters without being blind to the facts surely?

I think Fury is the best and out of the three including him, Wilder and Joshua I'd like Fury to come out on top.

But he's got plenty flaws and weaknesses just like the other two have. He also needs to walk the walk consistently now if he wants to prove he's the best.
You do, but many don't.