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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 18:23
by margaret thatcher
ya, when you get ppl mentioning all his losses, you need context
fury x 2
vitali
whyte 2x (both very close fights)
haye near peak
helenius (awful robbery)
pulev
kabayel
i mean, how many other hws around today would go through that opposition without taking several losses? very few. he obviously deserved to beat helenius, and the kab and whyte fights were close
he should really have wins over helenius, szpilka, scott, takam, and could easily have one over whyte. thats not bad.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 23 Jul 2019, 11:45
by dagilechia
morm wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 02:41
My new list top 15 hw are :
1. Tyson Fury
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Andy Ruiz Jr
4. Antony Joshua
5. Dillian Whyte
6.Luis Ortiz
7. Adam Kownacki
8. Kubrat Pulev
9. Filip Hrgovic
10. Joe Joyce
11. Daniel Dubois
12.Agit Kabayel
13. Efe Ajagba
14. Oscar Rivas
15.Evgeny Romanov
Parker, Povetkin, Chisora Out to many losses for me
Morm, i think that your vote vanished during the forum update (data transfer to another server or something like that). I think that your vote was: A: No change B: No change C: Ajagba to #15. If i'm wrong please post it again.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 03:17
by morm
dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Jul 2019, 11:45
morm wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 02:41
My new list top 15 hw are :
1. Tyson Fury
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Andy Ruiz Jr
4. Antony Joshua
5. Dillian Whyte
6.Luis Ortiz
7. Adam Kownacki
8. Kubrat Pulev
9. Filip Hrgovic
10. Joe Joyce
11. Daniel Dubois
12.Agit Kabayel
13. Efe Ajagba
14. Oscar Rivas
15.Evgeny Romanov
Parker, Povetkin, Chisora Out to many losses for me
Morm, i think that your vote vanished during the forum update (data transfer to another server or something like that). I think that your vote was: A: No change B: No change C: Ajagba to #15. If i'm wrong please post it again.
Corect... A: No change B: No change C: Ajagba to #15
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 07:44
by Boxtune
Whyte finally caught red handed ..mother fornicator PED users ..even then no balls to fight Pulev
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 08:12
by greg
A couple of quick questions prompted by the latest developments:
- what about placing an asterisk (*) next to the boxer’s name who got caught using forbidden substances in the past?
- what about temporary removal of the boxers from the top 15 list from now on, those who got caught recently or will get caught using forbidden substances?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 08:24
by dagilechia
greg wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 08:12
A couple of quick questions prompted by the latest developments:
- what about placing an asterisk (*) next to the boxer’s name who got caught using forbidden substances in the past?
- what about temporary removal of the boxers from the top 15 list from now on, those who got caught recently or will get caught using forbidden substances?
he will be removed, just like Miller
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 08:28
by greg
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 08:24
greg wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 08:12
A couple of quick questions prompted by the latest developments:
- what about placing an asterisk (*) next to the boxer’s name who got caught using forbidden substances in the past?
- what about temporary removal of the boxers from the top 15 list from now on, those who got caught recently or will get caught using forbidden substances?
he will be removed, just like Miller

based on the B-sample result of course...
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 12:20
by Tarkus
Chisora to #12, Szpilka remains unrakned.
Whyte remains at #5, Rivas to #14.
Ajagba remain unranked.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 13:56
by ewenhay
The voting on Whyte v Rivas should be on hold now until the drug test issue is clearer.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 13:57
by gilgamesh
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:56
The voting on Whyte v Rivas should be on hold now until the drug test issue is clearer.
Voting?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 13:58
by dagilechia
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:56
The voting on Whyte v Rivas should be on hold now until the drug test issue is clearer.
Yeah we will wait until the official decision and until the official info on what he was on.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 13:58
by ewenhay
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:57
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:56
The voting on Whyte v Rivas should be on hold now until the drug test issue is clearer.
Voting?
Whatever we call it
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 13:58
by ewenhay
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:56
The voting on Whyte v Rivas should be on hold now until the drug test issue is clearer.
Yeah we will wait until the official decision and until the official info on what he was on.
You're On the ball as always lad!
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:01
by gilgamesh
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
Whatever we call it
I mean he beat Rivas, regardless of what he was on. If he tests positive, and receives a banning then he'll be removed from the rankings altogether, but as is he beat Rivas.
Would they take away the result if he fails the B test, and turn it to a No Contest?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:01
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:01
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
Whatever we call it
I mean he beat Rivas, regardless of what he was on. If he tests positive, and receives a banning then he'll be removed from the rankings altogether, but as is he beat Rivas.
Would they take away the result if he fails the B test, and turn it to a No Contest?
That would be my guess. No-Contest.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:03
by dagilechia
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
Yeah we will wait until the official decision and until the official info on what he was on.
You're On the ball as always lad!
I try to even despite im on europa league match now
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:04
by ewenhay
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:01
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
Whatever we call it
I mean he beat Rivas, regardless of what he was on. If he tests positive, and receives a banning then he'll be removed from the rankings altogether, but as is he beat Rivas.
Would they take away the result if he fails the B test, and turn it to a No Contest?
Yeah if it turns out he's failed both samples he should get kicked out of the top 15 same as Miller
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:05
by ewenhay
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:03
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:58
You're On the ball as always lad!
I try to even despite im on europa league match now
What game are you watching?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:18
by oogiebe
Now that we know the substance Dill tested positive for is Dianabol and not a recreational drug. Do we vote on the fight? The situation?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:22
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:18
Now that we know the substance Dill tested positive for is Dianabol and not a recreational drug. Do we vote on the fight? The situation?
Do we not need to wait for the b sample?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:23
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:22
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:18
Now that we know the substance Dill tested positive for is Dianabol and not a recreational drug. Do we vote on the fight? The situation?
Do we not need to wait for the b sample?
I heard that it could take up to a year. Maybe in this case, it'll happen sooner. I'm still stunned.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:25
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:23
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:22
Do we not need to wait for the b sample?
I heard that it could take up to a year. Maybe in this case, it'll happen sooner. I'm still stunned.
A year to test a b sample? Mind blowing
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:26
by ewenhay
Has it been announced by the wbc or ukad yet or is it still just boxing scene?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:28
by dagilechia
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:05
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:03
I try to even despite im on europa league match now
What game are you watching?
Lechia Gdańsk vs Broendby Copenhagen it's 2-1 now... Next week going to Denmark so i will have limited amount of free time but luckily there are no fights this week
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Chisora, Whyte, Ajagba
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 14:33
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:26
Has it been announced by the wbc or ukad yet or is it still just boxing scene?
The WBC said they found out when the article was published. It's all over media now with Dianabol being id'd as the substance. BBBoC issued a statement not really saying anything, nor denying the happenings.