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Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 16:38
by smiling assassin
Don't want to kick the man when he's down. He is a fighter who has made a career off of social media and fair play to the man. Boxing wise he is bang average and would be lucky to pick up the English let alone British title. I thought he would get passed Price down to price gassing after 5 rounds but it shows just how basic Allen is by putting in a worse show than kash Ali. He made a nice amount of
Money and now he is set up for life. He seems like a nice man and I hope he does retire for good and enjoy life from now on

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 17:06
by CaptainSpacerod
handsofstone wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:56
Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:09 Is he hinting at some health issues he’s only 27. Must be something serious at that age, like maybe cancer or AIDS
:lol: :lol: Mentalist
:clap: :lol:

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 17:07
by CaptainSpacerod
:lol:
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 16:12
Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:54

Yeah I didn’t know what he was talking about I’m just guessing
Fair enough. I’ll guess either Ebola virus or leprosy then
:lol: :lol:

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 17:46
by bripez
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 17:07 :lol:
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 16:12

Fair enough. I’ll guess either Ebola virus or leprosy then
:lol: :lol:
Yeah, he certainly seems plagued by something

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 18:07
by northern
I would understand if this was the end for him, it's better to leave early with all your senses and financially secure rather then too late and with nothing to show for it.

At the same time though, I don't think this wil be the end of his career. Leaving boxing is hard, especially when you had such a strong fan following like he developed, add in the every day training and then suddenly having that absence in the day to day life, it is a very hard void to fill.
Looking at the rankings and who is coming through, I could see him maybe having 1 or 2 more fights at the British ranked level or maybe a Commonwealth or European ranked opponent, then finishing on a strong performance win or lose but definitely not this year. Hopefully he'll make use of the rest of this year to recover to 100%, train hard and see how he performs in the gym, then see what he wants to do.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 18:15
by Steveh583
Noxy wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:48
Steveh583 wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:27 When has he shown he's good? He's def shown he's tough, but I listed seven legit domestics who are streets ahead of him ability-wise. It's not jumping on the guy, it's just how it stands.
Webb and Browne, for example. I haven’t seen your post, seven UK guys streets ahead of him - Fury, Whyte, AJ, Chisora, Price, Hughie and DD? I won’t argue with that. The point is - as someone else posted -the Price match was a fair one. Price turned up last night and was better than he has sometimes been in the past. That’s why it played out the way it did.
I'd also pick bakole and Gorman over him any day. But yeah, all credit to price.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 18:37
by Coco
The bigger the spotlight, the harder it is to step out of

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 19:44
by oogiebe
Allen has come out saying he's been suffering headaches since his TKO loss to Yoka, along with 'other' health issues. Makes me feel bad for him. That could portend serious conditions up to life threatening issues. Hopefully it's not as bad as I assume, but it ain't good. I really like him too. Such a likable guy.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 03:42
by Gnome
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18
Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:13

Well he says he has bad health and is old but is only 27 so what is he talking bout?
No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
When I was watching the fight and saw how Allen couldn't get past Price's jab, the first thing I suspected was that Allen had developed full-blown AIDS.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 07:00
by jenko21
Gnome wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 03:42
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18

No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
When I was watching the fight and saw how Allen couldn't get past Price's jab, the first thing I suspected was that Allen had developed full-blown AIDS.
You don't know sh!t about illnesses, he's quite clearly got Lou gehrigs disease, and hepatitis c.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 07:25
by chrisnew86
Gnome wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 03:42
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18

No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
When I was watching the fight and saw how Allen couldn't get past Price's jab, the first thing I suspected was that Allen had developed full-blown AIDS.
its sad but the lack of head movement showed that he could very well be riddled with it.

Flying AIDS !!

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 07:30
by jameswilson
jonnyyorkshu wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 12:04
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?

He sounds like James toney but with a Yorkshire accent
So not like James Toney at all then.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 07:56
by Joel2
Noxy wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:48
Steveh583 wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:27

When has he shown he's good? He's def shown he's tough, but I listed seven legit domestics who are streets ahead of him ability-wise. It's not jumping on the guy, it's just how it stands.
Webb and Browne, for example. I haven’t seen your post, seven UK guys streets ahead of him - Fury, Whyte, AJ, Chisora, Price, Hughie and DD? I won’t argue with that. The point is - as someone else posted -the Price match was a fair one. Price turned up last night and was better than he has sometimes been in the past. That’s why it played out the way it did.
I love Dave Allen but can’t agree that Webb and Browne are big wins. Webb went on to get chinned by sokolowski and Browne really is shot and might even lose to Tom little.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 08:12
by skanksta
Gnome wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 03:42
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18

No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
When I was watching the fight and saw how Allen couldn't get past Price's jab, the first thing I suspected was that Allen had developed full-blown AIDS.
:clap:

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 08:22
by Verdi
He'd make fairly decent money against Shannon Briggs (if he ever does come back). It'd be almost a novelty fight, but both personalities could sell the fight well.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 08:35
by moogie101
Sadly I doubt he's really done with boxing, but I hope he is done as to lose in such a manner to this version of Price shows exactly where he is in what has become a very strong domestic scene. He's just not even at that level and can only see similar results in his future & no-one wants that for him. Plus he's complaining publicly about his health, I'd like to see the board take some responsibility here & investigate that before he ever fights again, that is if he decides to carry on.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 09:15
by Gnome
moogie101 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 08:35 Sadly I doubt he's really done with boxing, but I hope he is done as to lose in such a manner to this version of Price shows exactly where he is in what has become a very strong domestic scene. He's just not even at that level and can only see similar results in his future & no-one wants that for him. Plus he's complaining publicly about his health, I'd like to see the board take some responsibility here & investigate that before he ever fights again, that is if he decides to carry on.
To be fair, Price really fought to his physical attributes and in doing so gave Allen almost zero chance. Yes, Allen didn't perform very well but I think the dominance was more to do with how well Price boxed as opposed to Allen being poor.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 09:26
by ironbeard
Gnome wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 09:15
moogie101 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 08:35 Sadly I doubt he's really done with boxing, but I hope he is done as to lose in such a manner to this version of Price shows exactly where he is in what has become a very strong domestic scene. He's just not even at that level and can only see similar results in his future & no-one wants that for him. Plus he's complaining publicly about his health, I'd like to see the board take some responsibility here & investigate that before he ever fights again, that is if he decides to carry on.
To be fair, Price really fought to his physical attributes and in doing so gave Allen almost zero chance. Yes, Allen didn't perform very well butI think the dominance was more to do with how well Price boxed as opposed to Allen being poor.
It was both.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 09:27
by samwbr
Verdi wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 08:22 He'd make fairly decent money against Shannon Briggs (if he ever does come back). It'd be almost a novelty fight, but both personalities could sell the fight well.
Urgh. Horrendous.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 09:40
by Verdi
samwbr wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 09:27
Verdi wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 08:22 He'd make fairly decent money against Shannon Briggs (if he ever does come back). It'd be almost a novelty fight, but both personalities could sell the fight well.
Urgh. Horrendous.
Totally, but a lot of folk would watch it. Otherwise who else would be a big enough name to make it worth his while staying on in the sport?

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 10:42
by oogiebe
Jodfings wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 02:30 If you're referring to the clip he's posted on Twitter, he doesn't mention Yoka.
Boxing Squared had a story and clips.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 11:33
by MasterG
Well Dave hasnt been off Twitter since Saturday and im starting to think that if his medicals are ok he will carry on.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 11:50
by ironbeard
MasterG wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 11:33 Well Dave hasnt been off Twitter since Saturday and im starting to think that if his medicals are ok he will carry on.
The way he was throwing punches and moving his head on Saturday, it would be tough sledding in the bare knuckles circus.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 13:03
by 3132DW
MasterG wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 11:33 Well Dave hasnt been off Twitter since Saturday and im starting to think that if his medicals are ok he will carry on.
I think he’ll have a rest until Nov/Dec and will have a couple of journeymen type fights to get him back winning.

Re: Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 14:59
by 3132DW
Shhhh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 14:51 BTW does anyone know if the board test for aids at every fight? Rumours are Tommy morrison has AIDS since he was 18 and never did fail until his last fight. I know peeps are joking but it has to be more than mental issues.
Pretty certain they do check - I remember an African fighter on a small hall failing HIV test in bloods.

Would expect HIV, Hepatitis and PED should be standard.