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Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 14:08
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 14:07
characters wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 13:42 1: Wilder, with cars full of drugs, all the drugs addicted cheaters in his family, having cripple children and name it, but officially never been caught by anti doping labs because he cooperates with them.
2: Stiverne, who allways managed to get away with his doping use because he cooperates along the same connections as Wilder does, untill the moment he took doping right in front of a doping tester, at that point even his friends at the lab couldn't help him out.
3: Arreola, smoking more joints a day then Wilder got in his car and still remain a pro boxer, that deserves an applause, at least in some way.
4: Shannon Briggs, the only guy who manages to fool me, had had it all, including a title shot against someone who he could have beaten in a fair way and then he failed a doping test. It really depressed me, finally an American who could do something special in sports, without cheating, and then it turns out to be a cheat anyway.
5: Floyd Mayweather Jr, the guy who makes so much money that people just let him get away with all his cheating stuff, tipical American style.

Now I know that some people might suggest that some of these fighters aren't active any more, but for me they only claim to be inactive to avoid beïng tested and then make a comeback to help their drugs friends out, or to make a big bag of money.
Assfukt is back again.
Just don't feed his hunger for attention and he'll slither back under his rock. :TU:

Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 15:18
by Thomastearns
JohnReed wrote: 30 Jul 2019, 19:49 My contribution to this thread is mundane, but I'll make it nonetheless.

I've been a boxing fan since 1975, when I was just a kid. I've followed the sport closely for years. I can say for a fact that the fighters of the 1970s and 1980s -- generally speaking, that is -- were not as cut, lean, defined, or toned as most contenders are today. I mean sure...there were some 1970s and 1980s fighters that were incredibly cut, but they were the exception. Not the norm.

There's no doubt in my mind that PED use is probably the norm today, not the exception. Remember what Tommy Morrison said years ago, when he admitted that he was a steroid monster during his prime? Morrison said that "anytime" you see a guy that's incredibly muscular, or super-cut and defined, then he's got to be on something. Hearing it from Morrison is as good as hearing from the horse's mouth as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe authorities in all pro sports should start investigating how PED's can be used in moderation, under doctor's supervision, without threatening an athlete's health too severely. I say this because sports authorities will never succeed in weeding out PED's. It's probably better to allow doping, to regulate it, and to make it available to all fighters in order to level the playing field on a competitive level.

Just my thoughts, whatever they're worth.

Beginning to think you’re right about allowing PED use. I find it abhorrent but there’s clearly no desire to stop it. Not when they can come out with coverup smokescreen crap like the WBC did with their so called clean boxing program. The boxing authorities are absolutely unwilling to bite the hands that feed them. Human nature I guess.

“Are you comfortable Mr Canelo, we hope that horrid contaminated Mexican beef didn’t upset your stomach too much. Are there are more trophies we can bestow upon your holiness? Or would you prefer a few more years of grovelling your excellency?

Of course they will never condone PED use, that would be like condoning crime and that would undermine any remaining perceptions of legitimacy and authority still remaining in the hands of our ruling elites.

So maybe it’s time to try the harsher penalties first. Not necessarily the death penalty or Facebook type fines, but a two year ban and loss of last fight purse for any failure (eg Fury, BJS, Canelo etc).

For the gross Jarrell Miler type failures it’s got to be a lifetime ban, no questions asked. The fact he may believe that everyone else is doing it might exacerbate his feelings of injustice - and in that regard that POS has a point.

Still doesn’t excuse it.

Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 22:20
by tennessee
Roid Jones Jr would approve of this thread

Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 13:21
by gilgamesh
The best at it don't even get caught ;-)

Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 15:18
by KiwiRider
JohnReed wrote: 30 Jul 2019, 19:49
I've been a boxing fan since 1975, when I was just a kid. I've followed the sport closely for years. I can say for a fact that the fighters of the 1970s and 1980s -- generally speaking, that is -- were not as cut, lean, defined, or toned as most contenders are today. I mean sure...there were some 1970s and 1980s fighters that were incredibly cut, but they were the exception. Not the norm.
John, ya can't take visual appreance as a sign of anything.
Didn't Miller prove that?
The dude was riddled, and yet looked like a blob.
Today's fighters can look more cut and muscular. Training technology has advanced since the 80's. Nutrition has advanced as well. Suppliments also.
Top boxers now have diets tailored to their individual bodily requirements, workouts using technology such as body heat monitors, heart rate tracking, hypobaric recovery chambers, enhanced or reduced oxygen systems. Add to that the advances in sports psychology, and today's top guys have a lot of advantages over the guys from the 1990's and back.

Re: The PED's top 5 list, p4p, active fighters only

Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 08:27
by Heretic
gilgamesh wrote: 13 Sep 2019, 13:21 The best at it don't even get caught ;-)
:TU: