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bigjack wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 17:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 13:08 Ruiz will repeat the feat.

x2 but quicker

You reckon Ruiz let AJ off a few rounds after rd3?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 16:51 No one really thinking this will go the distance.

I've gone with Ruiz by KO. I'm about 75/25 in favour of that outcome. If Joshua wins, i think points or ko is an equal scenario.

Ruiz was able to back up Joshua from the first bell to the KO. He will be much more confident this time around, knowing Joshua's weaknesses. The cards are in his favour IMO. Its a tough call for Joshua, he will need to make a lot of adjustments. I think he is going to try and box to a points win, and will need to work that jab all night long, but can he keep Ruiz off him for 12 rounds?. I dont think so, Ruiz will be looking to stick it on him, walking Joshua down, tiring him out, making him work in order to create his own chances to get his shots off.

I hope Joshua can do it, but its a tough task in front of him.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 17:32

bigjack wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 17:19

x2 but quicker

You reckon Ruiz let AJ off a few rounds after rd3?

Not really,just can't see AJ improving but can see Ruiz being better next time.

I don’t get it a lot of people saying AJ could or will need to outbox Ruiz for a points win. What advantages does AJ have over Ruiz? Strength, power, size. What doesn’t he have? Boxing skills. Ruiz has much much better defends, jab, combos, speed, blocking, parrying (this especially), footwork. AJ will need a KO to win

https://twitter.com/companynelson2/stat ... 12672?s=21

Lol

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:07 https://twitter.com/companynelson2/stat ... 12672?s=21

Lol

Seen that.

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:07 https://twitter.com/companynelson2/stat ... 12672?s=21

Lol

Surely he's taking the piss, as the UK lads would say.

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:10

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:07 https://twitter.com/companynelson2/stat ... 12672?s=21

Lol

Surely he's taking the piss, as the UK lads would say.

It’s s fake account

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:11

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:10

Surely he's taking the piss, as the UK lads would say.

It’s s fake account

Or that!

I went Joshua KO but more on hunch than any logic. It sort of 'felt' like Lewis-Rahman in shock value but of course wasn't because Ruiz beat him up, it wasn't a freak punch.

My only suspicion is that Joshua was running on 50% and this affected everything, punch power, output, stamina etc. It just wasn't there.

He still had Ruiz over and if he is at nearer 100% I would imagine he'd get the job done.

But I don't have a clue really, Ruiz may just as easily expose him again. You'd have thought the Joshua camp must be confident of reversing the outcome though, if he gets thrashed again it's game over at elite level isn't it?

Goz wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 19:31 I went Joshua KO but more on hunch than any logic. It sort of 'felt' like Lewis-Rahman in shock value but of course wasn't because Ruiz beat him up, it wasn't a freak punch.

My only suspicion is that Joshua was running on 50% and this affected everything, punch power, output, stamina etc. It just wasn't there.

He still had Ruiz over and if he is at nearer 100% I would imagine he'd get the job done.

But I don't have a clue really, Ruiz may just as easily expose him again. You'd have thought the Joshua camp must be confident of reversing the outcome though, if he gets thrashed again it's game over at elite level isn't it?

Same here - I’ve went AJ by KO as i don’t think everything was 100% in 1st fight and it’s maybe not been said what issue was publicly.

Maybe not game over but he’d likely need to change trainer and entire set up and have 2-3 easier type fights to start again from scratch.

You’d question his motivation then to be able to do that with him already being worth 100-150m region.

Joshua favoured to win by the bookies. You can get 5/2 on Ruiz to win by any method. Some attractive odds for Ruiz in the round group betting, ex. 5/1 to win by KO inside 6 rounds.

Should be very tempting for those who strongly fancy Ruiz.

I always believed that Nistor's beating of AJ was the blue print. Stay small, pressurize and only open up when close, if I was AJ's team I would be perfecting that uppercut. Outside of that Ruiz wins again.

The monies must be in Escrow as they wouldn’t have announced unless the 40m was available.

Especially after Khan’s 7m didn’t show straight away.

3132DW wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 07:53 The monies must be in Escrow as they wouldn’t have announced unless the 40m was available.

Especially after Khan’s 7m didn’t show straight away.

Must be. Or they wouldn’t have announced it so quick.

Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:41 Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

It is strange we haven't heard boo from Ruiz's side.

Didn't know Andy was at Fury's ranch. Hmmm...

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:42

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:41 Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

It is strange we haven't heard boo from Ruiz's side.

Didn't know Andy was at Fury's ranch. Hmmm...

Mike Tyson.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:47

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:42
It is strange we haven't heard boo from Ruiz's side.

Didn't know Andy was at Fury's ranch. Hmmm...

Mike Tyson.

Like I said, I didn't know that!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2019, 16:51 No one really thinking this will go the distance.

I've got Josh by decision.

never been a big aj fan , awlays thought he is behind fury wilder ortiz , but he should beat ruiz , i think a lost can be a good thing if it is recived well. he now has more at stake than money, credibility, win or bust , i think aj ko ,

Ruiz by KO rounds 4 to 6, BET365 @ 10/1.

That is quite tempting.

fight seems to be in doubt according to Talksport. They say ruiz wont sign the contract. not sure if there is any truth in it but there isnt fire without smoke.