KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 09 Nov 2019, 13:36

KSI - Decision
2
8%
KSI - T/KO
7
27%
DRAW
1
4%
Paul - T/KO
5
19%
Paul - Decision
11
42%
 
Total votes: 26

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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 17:34 This fight gives the sport of boxing massive exposure to a completely new audience and the fighters appearing on the undercard will inevitably benefit from competing on such a circus event.

Please don’t assume my words as being derogatory or sarcastic, because I genuinely believe that the KSI-Paul rematch will not only be entertaining, but it’ll be really beneficial for the sport of boxing itself.

For the record, I was more impressed with Logan Paul’s pugilistic skills than I was with what the slugger KSI had to offer.

So I expect the American to beat the Brit (if he doesn’t run out of gas).
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Fightnight Scores wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 05:54
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 17:34 This fight gives the sport of boxing massive exposure to a completely new audience and the fighters appearing on the undercard will inevitably benefit from competing on such a circus event.
Until little 10 year old Jessica and her younger brother Jacob can't, try as they might, find Billy Joe Saunders' YouTube channel of him dossing about, endorsing/unboxing products or playing computer games.... :OhYes:
This whole thing really bugs you eh?
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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The exposure thing is overrated. Like I said, hardly changed Badou Jack or Ugas's career to be on Floyd-McG. I'd think the people really interestd in these guys aren't inclined to like boxing at all anyway. It's nice to think this would be a boon for the sport or the fighters on the card but doubt it makes much difference
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:35 The exposure for the sport thing is overrated. Like I said, hardly changed Badou Jack or Ugas's career
The point is this is an opportunity that someone is going to take advantage of. Why not fall in to the hands of an established boxing promoter who is going to put great fights on the undercard? It would take a dummy not to jump on this opportunity. Monetarily speaking, this is huge. The rematch made a huge amount. The rematch, with it being w/o headgear and under pro rules is going to sell more than the first fight all by itself. But by adding a legitimate undercard, they are getting real boxing fans as well. Let's not kid ourselves. Do we really expect promoters to turn this opportunity down because it's a bit of a circus side show? Any additional viewers boxing gets because of this is icing on the cake and obviously not the main focus of those involved. Any promoter that would turn this opportunity down is an idiot plain and simple. The guys bitching and whining that this is nothing but a money grab.... No Shit Sherlock. What do you expect? Silly people. Hearn and all else involved are going to make a killing. All the haters are going to be sulking in their misery and most likely watch the card anyway.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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I doubt there's enough interest in how their match goes for most of the 'haters' here to watch. They are not boxers or pro martial artists or mainstream celebs we'd all heard of before this. This was actually the first I'd ever heard of either and I still haven't seen their first exhibition. Don't really sense much intrigue.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:48 I doubt there's enough interest in how their match goes for most of the 'haters' here to watch. They are not boxers or pro martial artists or mainstream celebs we'd all heard of before this. This was actually the first I'd ever heard of either and I still haven't seen their first exhibition. Don't really sense much intrigue.
Are you aware of the numbers the first fight did? And are you aware of who they plan on putting on the undercard?
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Did it do those numbers from 'haters' who hardly know either guy?

I heard that leisure centre BJS might be on the undercard.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 20:06 Did it do those numbers from 'haters' who hardly know either guy?

I heard that leisure centre BJS might be on the undercard.
1.05 million PPV buys. So far, BJS and Devin Haney are billed to be on the undercard of the rematch. You may not feel this will do well. But it will.
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I didn't say it wouldn't do well, I said I'm not convinced there will be any meaningful lasting plus to the sport from it, or that the 'haters' you think will all watch actually will.

Were those YouTube PPVs for these 2 YouTubers?
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 20:41 I didn't say it wouldn't do well, I said I'm not convinced there will be any meaningful lasting plus to the sport from it, or that the 'haters' you think will all watch actually will.

Were those YouTube PPVs for these 2 YouTubers?
I guarantee a large amount of the haters that didn't tune into the first one are going to tune into this one. How many true boxing fans are going to take a pass on BJS and Haney to spite the main event?

Watch the first fight. I think you'll be surprised.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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I have only the DAZN interview with the white dude to go by. He is a well practiced promoter. With Haney on it they know I am watching.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Now the black dude is on. Got some boobirds behind him.

Hot redhead in lime.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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They go to white dude who is giving the two bird salute. Pushing this sh!t hard. It is tucked between some really big nights.

Turns out this is a replay within a replay.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Impractical Poster wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 18:59 This whole thing really bugs you eh?
Not at all....as you have said it makes monetary sense for a promoter to jump all over this.

The only point I've made is it is most likely nothing but a money spinner for Eddie, and I'm not sure how much he actually believes this event will bring in a mass of new boxing fans to the sport.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 19:35 The exposure thing is overrated. Like I said, hardly changed Badou Jack or Ugas's career to be on Floyd-McG. I'd think the people really interestd in these guys aren't inclined to like boxing at all anyway. It's nice to think this would be a boon for the sport or the fighters on the card but doubt it makes much difference
Was Ugas's fight even televised? You are right though for the most part. I doubt this gets BJS many new fans. I actually do think this will get Devin Haney some fans though. Not a lot but maybe a few.

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It is helping some boxers though somewhat in other ways. Shannon Briggs who's training Logan Paul is getting a ton of new exposure to a whole new fanbase. Ryan Garcia who's hanging out with Logan Paul is getting exposure outta this. Andy Ruiz showing up at Logan Paul's charity event was heavily publicized. It's getting Viddal Riley who's only 3-0 a TON of exposure. Viddal Riley is a major winner here. Pro's at 3-0 don't have much of a fanbase. Viddal Riley has an entire fanbase that's not boxing fans. One of the biggest winners out of this whole fiasco. Niko Valdes who you probably never heard of, 6-0, picked up a few of Logan Paul's fans. Mayweather Boxing Gym is eating this up.

I agree with you that it won't help the sport overall, and I agree with you it won't do much for the undercard fighters. But there are a few serious boxers in this that are coming out ahead. If Viddal Riley keeps winning he could be a star with a boxing fanbase AND a YouTube fanbase. He's talented. Let's see what happens. Also, no question about it this fight will at the very least get a load of new people to sign up for DAZN. And a good strategy to keep people subscribed is to keep this up. The fight's November, in December they should do another card with Jake Paul (Logan's brother headlining) Then in February or March have KSI or Logan Paul back. Keep it going to make these new subscribers stay
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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JMac wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 10:49
Gnome wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 08:13 Isn't Shannon Briggs training Logan Paul?
No it's not Briggs unless Paul changed trainers.
So it looks like Paul is using Briggs as his trainer. That makes this even more of a crazy farce. Briggs fits right in with this silly BS. I don't know if he is any kind of trainer. The last trainer was a legit trainer. Oh well.
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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JMac wrote: 23 Sep 2019, 12:47
JMac wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 10:49

No it's not Briggs unless Paul changed trainers.
So it looks like Paul is using Briggs as his trainer. That makes this even more of a crazy farce. Briggs fits right in with this silly BS. I don't know if he is any kind of trainer. The last trainer was a legit trainer. Oh well.
I haven't given a single f*ck about any of this, but because the rematch is on Boxing Prophet's game I basically HAD to form an opinion about who I thought was gonna win.

Watching the 1st round of their 1st contest. Logan is the only one that showed any discernible skill. Albeit amateur level skill, but KSI didn't show that even.

I couldn't be bothered watching all 6 rounds of these clowns, and I won't be bothered to watch the rematch, but ya know...good for them for getting people to care about watching 2 guys that 60% of the audience could beat up :lol:
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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It has also been confirmed that the PPV cost for the event will be a reasonable £9.99, cheaper than most other boxing event screened through the channel’s box office.

“It will be a lot cheaper than a standard Saturday night, £9.99, so around half price,” Hearn said.

“We want Billy Joe Saunders to be part of the preview, I don’t want to restrict his UK audience viewing. Maybe building up to the night, KSI and maybe one other US fight on PPV.”
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From 6PM UK time



So in an hour and half
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Re: KSI vs. Logan Paul II - November 9, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 11:21 From 6PM UK time



So in an hour and half
Cant believe this 'fight' is on sky ppv.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Oct 2019, 07:50
Says the two time ped cheat
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