Jean Pascal vs. Badou Jack - December 28, 2019

[lazboy]

Judges need clearer instruction on how to score rounds when an opponent is mostly hitting the guard of a fighter. Blocking is a defence, no doubt punches can Pierce that defence and power can still transfer through however a clean punches should be given more credit. Jack landed the cleaner punches, whereas Pascal landed big looping punches that hit Jacks guard more times than not.

[margaret thatcher]

People moan for Jack too much, it's his fault he has all this close results and doesn't get decisions in a lot of them, when it's like a 3rd of his fights that have been splits, mds, or draws it's something about him. Total punch stats mean nothing. It was close and he did his typical thing that makes him susceptible to not getting the judges on his side. People should cry for fighters who actually deserves it.

Pascal upset wins over Browne and Jack baby! 2019 year of the Jean. Come take de test bois

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I think the judges got this one wrong.

[Autobarn]

I believe Pascal will rematch him.

How the eff does JP still engage in thes wars, whrether he deserved the W or not? How is he not damaged, after all out wars with Froch, Diaconu (twice, with dislocated shoulders), Prime Kovalev, & Yunieski Gonzalez? How does he continue to surprise, from Dawson through to Elbiali & Browne? Incredible guy, I have to say it. And I rated Froch’s win over him from day 1.

Jack’s been in a few good ‘uns as well. Dirrell, Degale in particular, Stevenson & the Groves fight wasn’t half bad.

These 2 deserve each other, respect each other and bringthe best out of each other. Hope they engage war a second time.

[Ron C]

I’d like to see Jean Pascal vs. Sergey Kovalev 3. Let Pascal get some revenge. Crazy how brutal the first 2 fights were. The 3rd one would probably look similar except for with the other guy winning. Although Kovalev might not be as durable. I’d actually be interested in seeing it

[Paci]

Pascal looked less fresh after the fight then Jack.
Close one. Could have gone either way. But, I do think Jack got this, less tough fights then Pascal among other things.

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I’d like to see Jean Pascal vs. Sergey Kovalev 3. Let Pascal get some revenge. Crazy how brutal the first 2 fights were. The 3rd one would probably look similar except for with the other guy winning. Although Kovalev might not be as durable. I’d actually be interested in seeing it

Pascal would have more chance now to beat him. Back then, Kov was undefeated and a killer. He gave Pascal death, especially in the rematch.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Pascal and jack are warriors
.. tough tough men

[world ranked]

We all know the setup in to get Marcus Browne his rematch

[gilgamesh]

We all know the setup in to get Marcus Browne his rematch

I would think a fight with Pascal might be right up Canelo's alley actually. A chance to pick up another belt probably easier than he picked up his last one.

[gilgamesh]

I’d like to see Jean Pascal vs. Sergey Kovalev 3. Let Pascal get some revenge. Crazy how brutal the first 2 fights were. The 3rd one would probably look similar except for with the other guy winning. Although Kovalev might not be as durable. I’d actually be interested in seeing it

Kovalev would still kick Pascal's ass.

[DrDuke]

I’d like to see Jean Pascal vs. Sergey Kovalev 3. Let Pascal get some revenge. Crazy how brutal the first 2 fights were. The 3rd one would probably look similar except for with the other guy winning. Although Kovalev might not be as durable. I’d actually be interested in seeing it

I guess, Pascal will still lose. He has declined even more, than Kovalev. He was hurt against Jack, who is less sharp, than Kovalev.

[boxing_rocks]

I’d like to see Jean Pascal vs. Sergey Kovalev 3. Let Pascal get some revenge. Crazy how brutal the first 2 fights were. The 3rd one would probably look similar except for with the other guy winning. Although Kovalev might not be as durable. I’d actually be interested in seeing it

Kovalev would still kick Pascal's ass.

The scared version of Kovalev we saw against Canelo will lose to any top 10 LHW. In their second fight, Ward showed the way to beat Kovalev and now when Kova is a mockery of his former self, many can follow Ward's example.

[gilgamesh]

Kovalev would still kick Pascal's ass.

The scared version of Kovalev we saw against Canelo will lose to any top 10 LHW. In their second fight, Ward showed the way to beat Kovalev and now when Kova is a mockery of his former self, many can follow Ward's example.

Yeah. Ain't it funny how Kovalev fought a way he's absolutely never fought before against Canelo? Why would he have done that? Why would he do it again?

[Perseus]

Judges did a great job in this fight.
A very close fight with official scorecards that showed it as such.
I had it 113-113..............................one point off the cards of all three judges. I'll never have a problem with an official scorecard that is one point off mine.
The decision reasonably could have gone to Jack.................................but it didn't.
No robbery just close scorecards, after a close fight.

[boxing_rocks]

The scared version of Kovalev we saw against Canelo will lose to any top 10 LHW. In their second fight, Ward showed the way to beat Kovalev and now when Kova is a mockery of his former self, many can follow Ward's example.

Yeah. Ain't it funny how Kovalev fought a way he's absolutely never fought before against Canelo? Why would he have done that? Why would he do it again?

Maybe he fought like that because he was in trouble in every fight starting with Ward 2. If he was stopped by Eleider Alvarez and almost lost to Yarde, he should be cautious against top guys.

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Judging The Judges: Pascal-Jack Scorecard Analysis

ATLANTA - Any judge assigned to work a title fight involving Badou Jack knows to prepare for the long haul, and for their scorecard to be called into question the moment it’s announced.

As much was the case in Jack’s disheartening split decision defeat to Jean Pascal in their secondary light heavyweight title fight this past Saturday at State Farm Arena, though there exists the argument that all three judges actually got it right in the end.

Canada’s Pascal (35-6-1, 20KOs) prevailed by matching scores of 114-112 on the cards of judges Barry Lindenman and Nelson Vazquez, while second-generation judge Julie Lederman turned in a 114-112 tally in favor of Jack (22-3-3, 13KOs). Both boxers scored knockdowns in their thrilling Showtime-televised clash, with Jack hitting the deck in round four and Pascal going down in the 12th and final round.

Both rounds were accurately scored 10-8 across the board, and among the nine rounds in which all three judges were in full agreement. Interestingly, each ringside official agreed with at least one other on 10 of the 12 scored rounds.

Pascal swept the first five rounds on all three cards, as did Jack in the championship rounds. All three judges also had Jack—a former two-division titlist—winning rounds six and eight.

Judges Lindenman and Vazquez additionally agreed on Pascal winning round seven.

Each judge only had one round apiece where they dissented from their peers.

Judge Lederman—the daughter of the late, famed judge and longtime HBO Boxing’s unofficial scorer Harold Lederman—was the lone official to award Jack round seven. The New York-based ring official had Jack sweeping rounds 6-12, with the two-point round in the 12th providing the margin of victory for the Las Vegas-based Swedish export on her scorecard.

Rounds nine and 10 were the only two in which Lindenman and Vazquez did not see eye to eye. North Carolina’s Lindenman had Pascal winning round nine while Vazquez and Lederman awarded the frame to Jack. The same formula applied in round ten, a frame where Puerto Rico’s Vazquez was on his own in scoring it in favor of Pascal.

By fight’s end, social media chatter suggested a split audience with many viewers expecting the contest to end in a draw. The crowd on hand was in favor of Jack, with boos raining down upon the announced final verdict.

The ending wasn’t anything new for Jack, who has landed in either a split or majority decision or a draw in five of his eight career title fights. A 6th fight among that lot—his April 2016 super middleweight title defense versus former 168-pound titlist Lucian Bute—initially ruled a draw before being changed to a disqualification win for Jack after Bute tested positive for a banned substance.

Pascal has actually enjoyed far better luck in close calls. The former lineal light heavyweight champion and current secondary titlist rode a pair of knockdowns of Bernard Hopkins all the way to a finish line, defending his championship in a 12-round draw which easily could’ve easily landed in favor of Hopkins in their first fight. A July 2015 win over Yunieski Gonzalez was heavily disputed, while a 12-round majority decision defeat to Eleider Alvarez did not seem as close as the draw verdict on one scorecard.

Even in reclaiming a 175-pound title of sorts, Pascal managed a technical decision win over Staten Island, New York native Marcus Browne. The truncated affair took place this past August in Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, where Browne had spent more than half his career but whose first career defeat came down to a one-point margin on all three scorecards after being floored three times by Pascal.

In trading knockdowns on Saturday, it appeared as if Pascal and Jack would head to a stalemate. The three ringside scorers were split but managed to land on a winner in the end, one which came with dispute but not to the point of having to harshly judge any of the judges.

[Autobarn]

When Jack beat Dirrell, in a tough and close fight, weren’t people whining and resisting the scorecards?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Yeah. Ain't it funny how Kovalev fought a way he's absolutely never fought before against Canelo? Why would he have done that? Why would he do it again?

Maybe he fought like that because he was in trouble in every fight starting with Ward 2. If he was stopped by Eleider Alvarez and almost lost to Yarde, he should be cautious against top guys.

In hindsight, he fought like someone who had little in the tank, he seemed to gas spectacularly which led to the sudden KO.

I'll be very surprised if he fights again.

OK, maybe not very surprised, as he might get a big offer for a name opponent against a big ticket seller. However, that was probably his cash out fight.