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chisora has fought more decent fighters than wilder when you look at their respective records , ok he has been beaten by fury / whyte and / joshua but at least he has always stepped up and been willing to fight .

dagilechia wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:07 The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

You rank Washington as a better win than Hughie fury? To me that is mad. Hughie is boring but tough to beat. There are lots of 10-50 ranked guys that would get schooled by furry but ko Washington in my opinion.

I am so far from a Hughie fury fan but he is prime and although he lost Parker, pov and pulev on points.... You realy think those three wouldent stop Washington? As a scalp Hughie is ranked higher for me.

gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 11:54

dagilechia wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:07 The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

You rank Washington as a better win than Hughie fury? To me that is mad. Hughie is boring but tough to beat. There are lots of 10-50 ranked guys that would get schooled by furry but ko Washington in my opinion.

I am so far from a Hughie fury fan but he is prime and although he lost Parker, pov and pulev on points.... You realy think those three wouldent stop Washington? As a scalp Hughie is ranked higher for me.

generally no but in this ranking style matters too, also, Washington now has a better win than any of Hughie's wins, and as i said, this is just my subjective ranking, so i really get your points, there are as much rankings as there are posters

I'd say Chisora stopping Takam tops anything over Boggy Dinu

no change

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 16:13 I'd say Chisora stopping Takam tops anything over Boggy Dinu

Those are all fights from 2019 I think

Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:17 Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

Still I think Chisora's KO of Spilka should be at #3
As let's face it Breazeale was awful, so it can only be the style of the KO that has Wilder at #2
And Chisora's finish was highlight reel stuff for any heavyweight

Finkel wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:35

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:17 Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

Still I think Chisora's KO of Spilka should be at #3
As let's face it Breazeale was awful, so it can only be the style of the KO that has Wilder at #2
And Chisora's finish was highlight reel stuff for any heavyweight

Breazeale beats Szpilka. Just because he got plastered by Wilder doesn't mean he isn't still a top 15 HW. AJ took 7 rounds to beat him if memory serves. The division isn't very talented...just competitive.

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:18

dagilechia wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:07 The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

Dismal really. What's it been... 2 years?

How can you not include the draw between Fury and Wilder? I know you said wins, but that draw has them both at the top of these rankings, No?

I don't think he still is top 15 tbh, though still above Szpilka

Being pasted by Wilder doesn't make drop him out of the top 15. Of course, he's probably through anyway.

Ya, it's more like a combo of being 1-1 with a brutal 1st round ko loss and just a win over Negron over the last 2 years about that does it. There is enough guys at the lower end of the top 15 who have done enough to push out guys like this , though a half decent win and right back into contention for the rankings

dagilechia wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:07 The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

keirw wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:50

dagilechia wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 09:07 The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

But Wilder destroyed Breazeale, while Whyte was down and won after an competetive fight. Of course, currently I rank Rivas higher than Breazeale as well.

dagilechia wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:59

keirw wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 16:50
I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

But Wilder destroyed Breazeale, while Whyte was down and won after an competetive fight. Of course, currently I rank Rivas higher than Breazeale as well.

Yeah...manner of win counts in my book.

Fair enough, Wilder's win was pretty emphatic (despite getting wobbled himself).

keirw wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 17:41 Fair enough, Wilder's win was pretty emphatic (despite getting wobbled himself).

Agreed Wilder did what he had to do in extremely impressive fashion.

But let's be honest here: Breazeale was awful. It's like he had never seen a wilder fight before. Trying to counter Wilder's set-up jab

But still what a KO!

The voting is over.

Dereck Chisora remains at #13, David Price remains unranked.

Current list:

1. Tyson Fury - 29(20) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

4. Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - (#3)

5. Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 0 - (#15)

7. Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 09.11.2019 vs Rydell Booker - 26(13) 2(0) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #124)

9. Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Oleksandr Usyk - 17(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 9(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Filip Hrgović - 9(7) 0 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Eric Molina - 27(19) 5(5) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #36)

15. Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - (#6)