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Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 17:46
by Boxing Prospect
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 15:56
drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 14:24
I think any record which involves having hundreds of fights to break.. boxing won’t see those kinds of numbers again.
Only these Thai boxers who have the odd 4 round bouts every other week.. But even then.. Not going to reach 100.
Which boxer in the modern era nearly reached 100 pro fights?
James Toney hit 92
Sirimongkol Singwancha hit 100 bouts last year
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 18:22
by Ruthless-RKO
Humberto Soto is on 83
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 18:38
by chinarich
gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 15:59
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 15:56
Only these Thai boxers who have the odd 4 round bouts every other week.. But even then.. Not going to reach 100.
Which boxer in the modern era nearly reached 100 pro fights?
James Toney hit 92
Yory Boy Campas has over 100 fights.
Campas has over 100 wins, and he may well be the last boxer to achieve that feat given that the top names have fewer fights each year...
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 19:59
by Enlightened-One
sturm vogel wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 09:00
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 06:19
I had to Google this, but someone called
Len Wickwar compiled a record of 339-86-42, for a total of 467 fights.
Wow! I don't think anyone could get a license to do that anymore.
There are lots of currently active fighters that have competed in far more than a hundred bouts, which include the likes of:
Kevin McCauley, Ibrar Riyaz, William Warburton, Mazen Girke, Jevgenijs Andrejevs, Fonz Alexander, Lewis van Poetsch etc.
I could easily find more examples.
By my own admission though, I’m shocked to see so many fighters compete so regularly.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 00:08
by margaret thatcher
Has Len Wickwar been mentioned yet?
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 03:38
by Verdi
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 15:56
drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 14:24
I think any record which involves having hundreds of fights to break.. boxing won’t see those kinds of numbers again.
Only these Thai boxers who have the odd 4 round bouts every other week.. But even then.. Not going to reach 100.
Which boxer in the modern era nearly reached 100 pro fights?
James Toney hit 92
Peter Buckley had 300
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 06:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Verdi wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 03:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 15:56
Only these Thai boxers who have the odd 4 round bouts every other week.. But even then.. Not going to reach 100.
Which boxer in the modern era nearly reached 100 pro fights?
James Toney hit 92
Peter Buckley had 300
I didn’t mean journeyman. There are plenty with over 100 fights. I meant world class boxers.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 09:03
by margaret thatcher
Burns also challenged for his HW title by 163 pound Jack O Brian, what is that, a welterweight today? Johnson fought a lot of tiny 'heavyweights'
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 09:49
by Woldemar
Record Saensak Muangsorin and Vasily Lomachenko.
I don't see who takes belt in 2th professional fight.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 10:39
by margaret thatcher
Woldemar wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 09:49
Record Saensak Muangsorin and Vasily Lomachenko.
I don't see who takes belt in 2th professional fight.
I think this one is doable, may see it in the lowest classes where they often fight for titles earlier anyway. I think inevitably some amateur star will have the right backing to get a cherry pick to break it
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 11:25
by Boxing Prospect
Woldemar wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 09:49
Record Saensak Muangsorin and Vasily Lomachenko.
I don't see who takes belt in 2th professional fight.
Hyun Mi Choi won a WBA World title on debut
Been 8 (I think) men who have tried to do the same, one (Joves de la Puz I think) did lose avery close 15 decision to Satoshi Shingaki in an IBF title fight...
... So I think a fella will break the 3 fight record, Loma wasn't far off remember
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 03:48
by Verdi
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 06:43
Verdi wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 03:38
Peter Buckley had 300
I didn’t mean journeyman. There are plenty with over 100 fights. I meant world class boxers.
Well you did mention Thais fighting in 4 rounders, so I didn't realise you meant world level.
For world level fighters, who will be on a decent sum per fight and fighting 12 rounders, I doubt any will ever get to 100 fights.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 04:11
by 1okstcsb
ALL Records will be broken, The only question is when, RECORDS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 04:11
by Paci
1okstcsb wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 04:11
ALL Records will be broken, The only question is when, RECORDS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 04:17
by Enlightened-One
1okstcsb wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 04:11
ALL Records will be broken, The only question is when, RECORDS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN.
The Longest professional boxing match in history went 110 Rounds and Lasted over 7 Hours. On April 6, 1893, Andy Bowen and Jack Burke fought the longest gloved boxing match in history at the Olympic Club in New Orleans, Louisiana.
Exactly how will that be broken?
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 08:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Verdi wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 03:48
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Oct 2019, 06:43
I didn’t mean journeyman. There are plenty with over 100 fights. I meant world class boxers.
Well you did mention Thais fighting in 4 rounders, so I didn't realise you meant world level.
For world level fighters, who will be on a decent sum per fight and fighting 12 rounders, I doubt any will ever get to 100 fights.
Like the Thai Strawweight, he fights a few times a year. 2 world title defences and the odd coupld of 4 rounders against debutants.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 14:17
by hawaiianpunch
In “recent” times, Buck Smith and Jorge Castro had a lot of fights.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 02 Nov 2019, 04:17
by Ross
Most bouts ever I believe but cannot remember the number
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 04 Jan 2021, 21:42
by Nile4000
Henry Armstrong 3 titles simultaneously.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 04 Jan 2021, 21:44
by gilgamesh
Nile4000 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:42
Henry Armstrong 3 titles simultaneously.
Especially 3 TRUE Championships. Not 3 Paper belts
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 04 Jan 2021, 23:48
by Nile4000
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:44
Nile4000 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:42
Henry Armstrong 3 titles simultaneously.
Especially 3 TRUE Championships. Not 3 Paper belts
Indeed. One of the tragedies of today's boxing.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 05 Jan 2021, 00:28
by Paci
Nile4000 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 23:48
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:44
Nile4000 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:42
Henry Armstrong 3 titles simultaneously.
Especially 3 TRUE Championships. Not 3 Paper belts
Indeed. One of the tragedies of today's boxing.
It is the corruption around the sport that is hurting it. Also, people do forgot that sport is more like UFC with all big time promotors how sometimes do crossover shows for a big pile of money. Just look if the heavyweights will changed that with having loads of talent and yeah, AJ is the biggest name in Europe and Fury is and have made an impact with smashing Wilder(hope he refocus himself soon) in Americas.
Do love how some belts get stuck among some promotors. Still thou, needs to get ride of the meaningless belts like the you know, super silver-bs. Not saying that boxer are to blame for the clusterf+ck, since it started in the 60s and by the 90s we had like 3 major and some minor. And now we have 4 major who have some extra trinkets for ratings and sh*t that has waterdown the org ratings.
Might be a toxic rant but, f*cking hate the orgs.
Also, Armstrong wasn't normal in anyway. And it does feel like one of those impossible records. Jumping around thou in weights ain't healthy right? So yeah, he did win the FW belt jump to WW then down to LW. But didn't defend his belt at FW after he won his last One. For reasons. Would have killed him. Still not normal and crazy with a winning smilie.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 05 Jan 2021, 00:35
by Onetimeonly
Corruption has always been a part of boxing. Not sure what your UFC point was, they just put on cards that are better.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 05 Jan 2021, 17:09
by Nile4000
Paci wrote: ↑05 Jan 2021, 00:28
Nile4000 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 23:48
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 21:44
Especially 3 TRUE Championships. Not 3 Paper belts
Indeed. One of the tragedies of today's boxing.
It is the corruption around the sport that is hurting it. Also, people do forgot that sport is more like UFC with all big time promotors how sometimes do crossover shows for a big pile of money. Just look if the heavyweights will changed that with having loads of talent and yeah, AJ is the biggest name in Europe and Fury is and have made an impact with smashing Wilder(hope he refocus himself soon) in Americas.
Do love how some belts get stuck among some promotors. Still thou, needs to get ride of the meaningless belts like the you know, super silver-bs. Not saying that boxer are to blame for the clusterf+ck, since it started in the 60s and by the 90s we had like 3 major and some minor. And now we have 4 major who have some extra trinkets for ratings and sh*t that has waterdown the org ratings.
Might be a toxic rant but, f*cking hate the orgs.
Also, Armstrong wasn't normal in anyway. And it does feel like one of those impossible records. Jumping around thou in weights ain't healthy right? So yeah, he did win the FW belt jump to WW then down to LW. But didn't defend his belt at FW after he won his last One. For reasons. Would have killed him. Still not normal and crazy with a winning smilie.
You are right about Armstrong. And there definitely is a lot of corruption around boxing. But Arum and King are getting older(understatement), so a tiny bit of hope.
Re: Boxing Records that will Never be Broken?
Posted: 05 Jan 2021, 17:54
by gilgamesh
Don King doesn't really have any relevance in Boxing anymore. If he even still promotes anybody it's news to me.
Last person I heard of him promoting was some Middleweight prospect that kinda fell off fairly quick. He's still active I think, but I'm pretty sure King doesn't have anything to do with his promotion now
Amir Imam, that's the guy.