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Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 04:46**

20 hrs and the fight starts....i am pumped for this one

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 04:46**

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 04:35 - Watching some of you silly putties moan about Canelo before, during, after and in between every fight is priceless gold!

As Fat Dan noted, Kov been doing this next am weighin 185 limit for a while with IBF not to mention WBC been moving in that direction. Kov might be 195 in the ring.

Good show by Kov Friday to stage the weighin drama to erupt the goobering antisocial media into a froth. He's #1 boxrec and #2 Ring and still Sheriff Bob Foster dangerous at 175 and prob in the best condition of his life.

Krusher and Canelo old school making something happen in a down cycle of boxing.

Good post.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 09:22**

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 21:48
NateJR wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 20:06 Here comes all of the excuses .. doesn't this get old? Canelo moved up 2 divisions yet people are making a stink about Kovalev not being able to weigh more than 10 lbs. over the weight class they're fighting. .. I can't say anymore, it won't be nice.
Canelo moved up 2 divisions to fight a vulnerable old champion and made sure that he made all possible advantages. Just knowing that Kovalev can't fight inside, doesn't take body attack well and gases after 5-6 rounds wasn't enough. Having judges in his pocket wasn't enough. Canelo made sure that Kovalev can't rehydrate comfortably, so that he gases even earlier.

You sound desperate to diminish a Canelo victory. I've seen this on here countless times, every Canelo fight to be exact. Let me guess, if Kovalev wins he gets full credit for beating a undersized LHW? Poor Kovalev, he's fighting a guy who fights 2 divisions south of him, but can't put on more than 10 lbs 14 hours after they weigh in, how detrimental it is to this fight, awful.

No matter how this fight pans out you already have built in excuses to fall back on to diminish a Canelo victory. Good on you, you have it all covered, that Ginger boy gets no credit from you so you can sleep at night.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 09:27**

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:17 Rehydration should be purely up to governing body policy

It should be against the law. Imagine telling a fighter how "hydrated" he is allowed to be.

1 day a rehydration clause will be the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury or death, hopefully resulting in a pudendum like Canelo getting sued for all his worth.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 09:37**

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 10:30**

NateJR wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 09:22
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 21:48
Canelo moved up 2 divisions to fight a vulnerable old champion and made sure that he made all possible advantages. Just knowing that Kovalev can't fight inside, doesn't take body attack well and gases after 5-6 rounds wasn't enough. Having judges in his pocket wasn't enough. Canelo made sure that Kovalev can't rehydrate comfortably, so that he gases even earlier.
You sound desperate to diminish a Canelo victory. I've seen this on here countless times, every Canelo fight to be exact. Let me guess, if Kovalev wins he gets full credit for beating a undersized LHW? Poor Kovalev, he's fighting a guy who fights 2 divisions south of him, but can't put on more than 10 lbs 14 hours after they weigh in, how detrimental it is to this fight, awful.

No matter how this fight pans out you already have built in excuses to fall back on to diminish a Canelo victory. Good on you, you have it all covered, that Ginger boy gets no credit from you so you can sleep at night.

It would be so easy for Canelo to shut critics down - just fight with neutral judges and not seek additional advantages like this rehydration clause. Obviously, he is not that brave to drop those advantages.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 11:38**

..it's very unfortunate that certain locations have discredited themselves to the point where the boxing fans a priori have to legitimately doubt the results..

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 13:38**

Have the re weighed yet? I can't find what and when they reweighed at. Surely it would be done by now, otherwise it's getting dangerously close to the fight.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 13:58**

Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 09:27
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:17 Rehydration should be purely up to governing body policy
It should be against the law. Imagine telling a fighter how "hydrated" he is allowed to be.

1 day a rehydration clause will be the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury or death, hopefully resulting in a pudendum like Canelo getting sued for all his worth.

Or not having a rehydration clause being the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury like Joey Gamache did.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 14:08**

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 13:58
Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 09:27

It should be against the law. Imagine telling a fighter how "hydrated" he is allowed to be.

1 day a rehydration clause will be the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury or death, hopefully resulting in a pudendum like Canelo getting sued for all his worth.
Or not having a rehydration clause being the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury like Joey Gamache did.

Gamache didn't suffer an injury because he was dehydrated.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 14:10**

gregregegg wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 13:38 Have the re weighed yet? I can't find what and when they reweighed at. Surely it would be done by now, otherwise it's getting dangerously close to the fight.

Kov went and took a piss and came back to make weight in a few minutes.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 14:41**

Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:08
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 13:58

Or not having a rehydration clause being the reason a fighter suffers a serious brain injury like Joey Gamache did.
Gamache didn't suffer an injury because he was dehydrated.

Right. You didn't read my response correctly. If there was a rehydration clause, Gamache's injury could've been lessoned because Gatti would've been 161 in the ring on fight night.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 14:44**

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:41
Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:08

Gamache didn't suffer an injury because he was dehydrated.
Right. You didn't read my response correctly. If there was a rehydration clause, Gamache's injury could've been lessoned because Gatti would've been 161 in the ring on fight night.

Silly point of view.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 14:46**

Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:44
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:41

Right. You didn't read my response correctly. If there was a rehydration clause, Gamache's injury could've been lessoned because Gatti would've been 161 in the ring on fight night.
Silly point of view.

A bit.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 15:12**

just as shitty as expected. to make it public the day of the fight makes it just more disgusting.

light heavy should be light heavyweight. not canelo weight again. fornicate that sleazy shite.

canelo can FULLY rehydrate as it should be after the draining process of making weight.

kovalev has to struggle & spend concentration and energy on controlling his natural full rehydration process, holding back if only by a couple of pounds. but those couple of pounds can be crucial as he lately was closer to 190 in ring rather than the stipulated 185.

just disgusting by canelo to allow that shit.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 15:19**

adislav123 wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 15:12 just as shitty as expected. to make it public the day of the fight makes it just more disgusting.

light heavy should be light heavyweight. not canelo weight again. fornicate that sleazy shite.

canelo can FULLY rehydrate as it should be after the draining process of making weight.

kovalev has to struggle & spend concentration and energy on controlling his natural full rehydration process, holding back if only by a couple of pounds. but those couple of pounds can be crucial as he lately was closer to 190 in ring rather than the stipulated 185.

just disgusting by canelo to allow that poo.

Uneducated!

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 15:26**

Kovalev looked pretty drained at the weigh in. The timing of the re-hydration clause was calculated by team Canelo to put off the criticism he would have gotten leading up to the fight. It's not a WBO rule. It is an A side made up rule to gain an advantage. Canelo already has the age advantage, so his confidence must not be too high if he needs this too.

Oh well, may the best man win. BTW, random VADA testing for this one, or will that be a timely release to the media soon?

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 15:35**

why demand it (handsomely paid extra for it or not) in the contract, if they don't expect to negatively effect kovalev? if only minimally.

because they can? just for fun?

and why did it get public just the day before the fight? to avoudxquestions about it.

why not avoid it all along and for once cut that shit out? fair & square if it doesn't affect kovalev anyways.

he fought under the ibf rehydration clause numerous times!?

okay, but in those fights both athletes had to deal with it.

today it's just tailormade canelo weight again.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 15:51**

gregregegg wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 13:38 Have the re weighed yet? I can't find what and when they reweighed at. Surely it would be done by now, otherwise it's getting dangerously close to the fight.

I am sure it was done, just kept confidential.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 16:12**

Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:44
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:41

Right. You didn't read my response correctly. If there was a rehydration clause, Gamache's injury could've been lessoned because Gatti would've been 161 in the ring on fight night.
Silly point of view.

No, Gatti outweighed Gamache by a bit when he didn't really need too. That one fight is likely why they do rehydration clauses.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 16:36**

adislav123 wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 15:12

light heavy should be light heavyweight. not canelo weight again. fornicate that sleazy shite.

canelo can FULLY rehydrate as it should be after the draining process of making weight.

Last I knew LHW was 175 lbs., Which was the contracted weight. There was no catch-weight, so wtf are you even crying about?

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 17:00**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:25 People are outraged about Sergey Kovalev having to weigh 185lbs or less for the second day weigh-in, whilst conveniently forgetting about the fact the Russian adhered to those precise stipulations against the following opposition:

• Andre Ward (twice)
• Isaac Chilemba
• Jean Pascal
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Jean Pascal
• Bernard Hopkins
• Cornelius White

The same people were also outraged about the very same 10lbs rehydration clause being implemented for Canelo’s bout against Danny Jacobs, despite the fact the American actually held the IBF championship (he captured the vacant title the fight prior by defeating Sergiy Derevyanchenko).

Canelo and Jacobs were both accustomed to competing under the same stipulations that Canelo’s team requested, they were also being paid handsomely and they both signed the contract and took the fight.

So what’s the problem? Why are people so upset about this?

Good answer.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 17:08**

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 16:12
Ricky wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 14:44

Silly point of view.
No, Gatti outweighed Gamache by a bit when he didn't really need too. That one fight is likely why they do rehydration clauses.

So let's simplify this;

I want fighters to be fully hydrated, because if you are dehydrated your brain (made up if mostly water) shrinks inside your skull. It therefore makes blows to the head significantly more dangerous.

You want fighters to be dehydrated so they don't hit as hard.

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 17:13**

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑02 Nov 2019, 17:00
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:25 People are outraged about Sergey Kovalev having to weigh 185lbs or less for the second day weigh-in, whilst conveniently forgetting about the fact the Russian adhered to those precise stipulations against the following opposition:

• Andre Ward (twice)
• Isaac Chilemba
• Jean Pascal
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Jean Pascal
• Bernard Hopkins
• Cornelius White

The same people were also outraged about the very same 10lbs rehydration clause being implemented for Canelo’s bout against Danny Jacobs, despite the fact the American actually held the IBF championship (he captured the vacant title the fight prior by defeating Sergiy Derevyanchenko).

Canelo and Jacobs were both accustomed to competing under the same stipulations that Canelo’s team requested, they were also being paid handsomely and they both signed the contract and took the fight.

So what’s the problem? Why are people so upset about this?
Good answer.

Cheers bud.

It’s appreciated.

Here are more interesting stats to upset those making derogatory and fictional anti-Canelo claims:

Here’s a list of Sergey Kovalev’s unofficial network commentator announced rehydration ring weights against the following opponents:

• Eleider Alvarez (first fight) = 185lbs
• Nadjib Mohammedi = 183.5lbs
• Jean Pascal = 189lbs
• Bernard Hopkins = 188lbs
• Blake Caparello = 185lbs
• Cedric Agnew = 183lbs
• Ismayl Sillakh = 181lbs

Facts don’t care about feelings. And whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinions, they aren’t entitled to their own facts!

Posted: **02 Nov 2019, 17:40**

Interesting stats from EO. The most recent time he weighed 185 (against Alvarez) he badly faded and was brutally KOed.

I wonder if the weight had anything to do with this performance.

After reading some of the responses, I’m
Thinking it doesn’t have a big effect on him although it can’t help of course. Although EO has put some interesting stats up, he also weighed lower for his Ward fights in which he faded.

Maybe EO’s on to something and it will effect him more than we know.

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