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squiggy wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:09

Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:52 Considering that Wilder and Fury drew, considering that Joshua went 1-1 with Ruiz, this is no time to be rating any of them top 10 p4p.

When Usyk was a cruiserweight, he was definitely top 10 p4p, maybe top 5 p4p. So, even as a heavyweight, Usyk still belongs in the top 10 p4p.

It being hard to choose the better of two guys doesn't mean they couldn't both be top 10.

Lackeos wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 01:04

squiggy wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:09

It being hard to choose the better of two guys doesn't mean they couldn't both be top 10.

If they drew and they're both in the top 10 p4p, then that means they were both in the top 10 p4p before they fought each other. Well, not necessarily exactly both in the top 10, because one could've been #8 and the other #11, and after they drew, they came out #9 and #10. So anyways, how in the hell could they have been top 10 p4p before that draw? Like... Wilder beat exactly just Luis Ortiz and now he's top 10 p4p? I gotta go look at the history books and see how many people earned a top 10 p4p slot only by beating exactly one divisional #5 opponent and no one else in the division's top 10. It would be insane if an undefeated guy with a thin resume like Jack Catterall beat a divisional #5 guy like Jose Zepeda and then earned a top 10 p4p berth. In reality, if Catterall beat Zepeda, we'd probably rank him like #55-80 p4p.