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KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:28

gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:22

I normally don't buy it when guys give the excuse that they haven't been training properly, and their head hasn't been in the right place and this and that, but I believe it in Whyte's case with him basically being robbed yet again of his rightful title shot, and being handed a lengthy suspension from the sport.

I definitely don't think this was as good as he's capable of being. That being said, I think even the very best Whyte doesn't have much of a shot against the guys at the top. He's a solid contender, and will continue to be for a while to come, but I don't see him ever being more than what he is right now.

Physically- I don't think he trained enough. Though, it was his lack of speed and defence that made me say "infinitely beatable" because if Wach, and let's face it, it's Wach, can land slow, telegraphed overhand rights consistently flush, then the Whyte we saw tonight gets startched by a puncher easily.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:28

bigjack wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:20 God I hope not,that was a very good boxing performance,but awful to watch

You didn't enjoy that?

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 06:49 I wonder if they have concerns over his ability to take a punch as it was clear he didn't want to trade with Ruiz. Anyone remember a few years ago when AJ was interviewed about Wilder and he laughed that no way a 15 stone man could hurt him!! I think he has realised he can be hurt and fair play to him for adjusting.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 06:04 I don't think this style is here to stay, but it showed one thing - He has more in his locker than both Fury and Wilder.

He adapted his game plan and won big in a rematch that a lot of people thought he would lose.

I was impressed with Joshua's fitness, there was mumblings in the round by round thread that there was no way Joshua could keep on his toes for 12 rounds and that he was blowing after 4 rounds. Reality check for those guys, he was still dancing in the 12th round.

I think he should get more credit - A lot more credit actually.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:19

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:05 Talking of Whyte, I do believe he's improved since he fought AJ, but I also feel that his chin's never been as good.

I thought he looked infinitely beatable tonight. The worst I've seen him. Slow, lethargic, predictable, and utterly defenceless to a slow telegraphed overhand right.
Was he just playing badly to attract Wilder, or was he just having a very bad night?

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 08:58

KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 22:19

I thought he looked infinitely beatable tonight. The worst I've seen him. Slow, lethargic, predictable, and utterly defenceless to a slow telegraphed overhand right.
Was he just playing badly to attract Wilder, or was he just having a very bad night?

I just think he got caught cheating (I know he's been 'cleared') and this is him off the gear. Whyte has never been a good boxer, just game and strong. I think he was cheating for Del Boy and Parker, and came close to losing to both.

Wach is Dillian's usual fare of totally faded ex-contender name. He's clean now and will be KO'd as soon as he steps up again.

rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 09:23

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 08:58
I just think he got caught cheating (I know he's been 'cleared') and this is him off the gear. Whyte has never been a good boxer, just game and strong. I think he was cheating for Del Boy and Parker, and came close to losing to both.

Wach is Dillian's usual fare of totally faded ex-contender name. He's clean now and will be KO'd as soon as he steps up again.

At the risk of getting my knackers cut off got to disagree with you a bit mate , he's always had a decent jab and a good body puncher , is he number 1 ranked contender with the wbc ? Looks to me like he probably won't ever be a world champion and will in the group just under , but would give any of the top boys a tough night ,just wish he would train properly and get in really good shape . Can't disagree about the ped stuff though , but I would imagine they are all at it , doesn't make it right tho .

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:40

rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 09:23
At the risk of getting my knackers cut off got to disagree with you a bit mate , he's always had a decent jab and a good body puncher , is he number 1 ranked contender with the wbc ? Looks to me like he probably won't ever be a world champion and will in the group just under , but would give any of the top boys a tough night ,just wish he would train properly and get in really good shape . Can't disagree about the ped stuff though , but I would imagine they are all at it , doesn't make it right tho .

Your testicles are safe. I used to follow Dillian's instagram and at one point he was a big lad but still kind of fat and then he got bigger and bigger and stronger and stronger until he basically (and I will have to choose my words carefully here as I believe when the subject came up before an infuriated poster actually left the forum) overpowered the superior boxers in Chisora, Rivas and Parker. Then he got busted and suddenly he looks very ordinary again.

Look at his line up before: Lucas Browne (KO'd by Dave Allen), Robert Helenius, Chisora 1 (which I thought he lost): people with 'names' who have come to the end. Wach is Whyte's MO. Chisora will be laughing at that.

rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:52

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:40
Your testicles are safe. I used to follow Dillian's instagram and at one point he was a big lad but still kind of fat and then he got bigger and bigger and stronger and stronger until he basically (and I will have to choose my words carefully here as I believe when the subject came up before an infuriated poster actually left the forum) overpowered the superior boxers in Chisora, Rivas and Parker. Then he got busted and suddenly he looks very ordinary again.

Look at his line up before: Lucas Browne (KO'd by Dave Allen), Robert Helenius, Chisora 1 (which I thought he lost): people with 'names' who have come to the end. Wach is Whyte's MO. Chisora will be laughing at that.

Guess his next fight at a decent level will tell us where he's at , don't you think most if not all the top heavies are getting a little extra " help" though ?