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Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 17:41
by oogiebe
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:16
oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Dec 2019, 20:53
Dokes was the better fighter and had more power. I always wondered how good he could've been if not for his out of ring exploits. Page was always an afterthought to me. He had his moments early on, but proved to be mediocre.
He looked superb in Sun City vs Coetzee I thought.
Even the sun shines on a dog's a$$ sometimes.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 17:49
by margaret thatcher
Hate to be a downer, but if he's got the big P then he'll probably be done for soon.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 17:51
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:49
Hate to be a downer, but if he's got the big P then he'll probably be done for soon.
Just looked it up. It's one of the most curable cancers. Of course how far it has gone plays a role. So we can hope for the best, but you're probably right.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 17:53
by margaret thatcher
Whoops, got it mixed up with pancreatic cancer, now I feel better though

Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 17:56
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:53
Whoops, got it mixed up with pancreatic cancer, now I feel better though
LOL! Still, he's at stage four I believe.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 18:01
by Tuan_Jim
oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:41
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:16
He looked superb in Sun City vs Coetzee I thought.
Even the sun shines on a dog's a$$ sometimes.
Looked classy vs Tillis, Snipes, Evangelista, Young, Ledoux too etc. Fun war with Berbick despite breaking his hand. That dog's a$$ must have had bleached fur with all the sun it got!
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 18:07
by oogiebe
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 18:01
oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:41
Even the sun shines on a dog's a$$ sometimes.
Looked classy vs Tillis, Snipes, Evangelista, Young, Ledoux too etc. Fun war with Berbick despite breaking his hand. That dog's a$$ must have had bleached fur with all the sun it got!

LOL! I just don't see it that way. LeDoux was done and was never anything better than a decent journeyman. Young was almost 230 lbs and on the down. Tillis I'll give you. Evangelista I can't. Snipes ran hot and cold. Losing 8-2 to Berbick isn't a feat. Let's face it. Page was a bit of an enigma and he can be debated all day.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 18:17
by tiny_acres
Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 16:38
tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Dec 2019, 21:13
He had great skill. But average power
Dokes was the one with average power. And thought he was better than what he was.
Both were wasted talent.
The list of wasted heavyweights in the 80s is a pretty long list.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 18:23
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 18:17
Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 16:38
Dokes was the one with average power. And thought he was better than what he was.
Both were wasted talent.
The list of wasted heavyweights in the 80s is a pretty long list.
huge
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 18:52
by Nile4000
tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 18:17
Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 16:38
Dokes was the one with average power. And thought he was better than what he was.
Both were wasted talent.
The list of wasted heavyweights in the 80s is a pretty long list.
Indeed.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 19:51
by Tony1244
tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 18:17
Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 16:38
Dokes was the one with average power. And thought he was better than what he was.
Both were wasted talent.
The list of wasted heavyweights in the 80s is a pretty long list.
The partying of Leon Spinks, Michael Dokes, Gerry Cooney would make The Grateful Dead and the cast of Saturday Night Live blush.
Raoul Duke and his attorney would be asking the heavyweights for drug tips.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 20:51
by tiny_acres
Tony1244 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 19:51
tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 18:17
Both were wasted talent.
The list of wasted heavyweights in the 80s is a pretty long list.
The partying of Leon Spinks, Michael Dokes, Gerry Cooney would make The Grateful Dead and the cast of Saturday Night Live blush.
Raoul Duke and his attorney would be asking the heavyweights for drug tips.
Dont forget Pinklon Thomas who could of been a great one
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 22:03
by Tony1244
tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 20:51
Tony1244 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 19:51
The partying of Leon Spinks, Michael Dokes, Gerry Cooney would make The Grateful Dead and the cast of Saturday Night Live blush.
Raoul Duke and his attorney would be asking the heavyweights for drug tips.
Dont forget Pinklon Thomas who could of been a great one
I had a feeling I was forgetting someone, and Pinklon was exactly who I was forgetting.

Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 16:19
by Nile4000
evrenb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 13:25
Greg page at his best was about Muhammad Ali level in 1978..
And Michael Dokes at his best was Muhammad Ali in 1980.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 16:20
by Nile4000
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 17:16
oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Dec 2019, 20:53
Dokes was the better fighter and had more power. I always wondered how good he could've been if not for his out of ring exploits. Page was always an afterthought to me. He had his moments early on, but proved to be mediocre.
He looked superb in Sun City vs Coetzee I thought.
Yeah, Greg went to Sun City and handled his business. Michael went to Las Vegas and got his business handled for him. We all know he got Greg's title shot

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Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 16:32
by evrenb
Nile4000 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:19
evrenb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 13:25
Greg page at his best was about Muhammad Ali level in 1978..
And Michael Dokes at his best was Muhammad Ali in 1980.
Dokes was Ali in 1961
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 16:43
by Nile4000
evrenb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:32
Nile4000 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:19
And Michael Dokes at his best was Muhammad Ali in 1980.
Dokes was Ali in 1961
And Page was Ali in 1967.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 16:56
by evrenb
Nile4000 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:43
evrenb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:32
Dokes was Ali in 1961
And Page was Ali in 1967.
Bollox!

Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 17:18
by Nile4000
evrenb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:56
Nile4000 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 16:43
And Page was Ali in 1967.
Bollox!
Yeah

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Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 17:49
by Onetimeonly
My apologies for inadvertently turning a thread about an ill former champ into yet another one man page strokeathon. I'll try to be more responsible in the future.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 18:00
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 17:49
My apologies for inadvertently turning a thread about an ill former champ into yet another one man page strokeathon. I'll try to be more responsible in the future.
Don't think it was you. No worries here.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 20:17
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 18:00
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 17:49
My apologies for inadvertently turning a thread about an ill former champ into yet another one man page strokeathon. I'll try to be more responsible in the future.
Don't think it was you. No worries here.
It was, he said dokes had no power and I responded he hit at least as hard as the object of his obsession. On me, I know better.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 20:18
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 18:00
Don't think it was you. No worries here.
It was, he said dokes had no power and I responded he hit at least as hard as the object of his obsession. On me, I know better.
Meh...we all chimed in...to no avail. The boy loves Page.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 20:35
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 20:18
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 20:17
It was, he said dokes had no power and I responded he hit at least as hard as the object of his obsession. On me, I know better.
Meh...we all chimed in...to no avail. The boy loves Page.
Like nobody has ever loved a fighter.
Re: Leon spinks is very unwell
Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 20:36
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 20:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2019, 20:18
Meh...we all chimed in...to no avail. The boy loves Page.
Like nobody has ever loved a fighter.
Seriously.