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Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 13:05**

It's a good fight this.

Both relatively untested and both have their assets.

I'd think Joyce would need to have a great chin to prevail, but if he can control the fight and make dubous work for it, then could see him beating a tiring dubois.

Joyce's footwork and lack of defence makes me lean toward Dubois though.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 14:05**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 13:05 It's a good fight this.

Both relatively untested and both have their assets.

I'd think Joyce would need to have a great chin to prevail, but if he can control the fight and make dubous work for it, then could see him beating a tiring dubois.

Joyce's footwork and lack of defence makes me lean toward Dubois though.

You do get the impression Joyce has a breezeblock of a jaw don’t you, which is what makes this one interesting. Dubois will be hitting home runs on it, but will he tire, and how does he do in the trenches.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 14:05**

If Joyce wins, I'd think it will be in a fashion where he's had to get up a couple times and go through hell first before wearing Dub down.

Though I think Dub does him pretty comfortably. Dubsy is legit.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 14:44**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 14:05
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 13:05 It's a good fight this.

Both relatively untested and both have their assets.

I'd think Joyce would need to have a great chin to prevail, but if he can control the fight and make dubous work for it, then could see him beating a tiring dubois.

Joyce's footwork and lack of defence makes me lean toward Dubois though.
You do get the impression Joyce has a breezeblock of a jaw don’t you, which is what makes this one interesting. Dubois will be hitting home runs on it, but will he tire, and how does he do in the trenches.

He's got a wide set jaw and neck, which suggests he may well have a good set of whiskers, but it doesn't always follow.

I think relying on his chin would be a big error.

I don't recall him having a great jab, but he will need to stop dubois having a target to tee off on.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 14:53**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 14:05
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 13:05 It's a good fight this.

Both relatively untested and both have their assets.

I'd think Joyce would need to have a great chin to prevail, but if he can control the fight and make dubous work for it, then could see him beating a tiring dubois.

Joyce's footwork and lack of defence makes me lean toward Dubois though.
You do get the impression Joyce has a breezeblock of a jaw don’t you, which is what makes this one interesting. Dubois will be hitting home runs on it, but will he tire, and how does he do in the trenches.

I've just got this feeling that dubois will turn out to be a front runner.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 15:03**

Doo-bWAH

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 15:45**

Granted Stiverne was about 20lbs overweight when he fought Joyce but he still can punch and landed some corkers on Joyce who just asked for more.

Dubois may have to hit Joyce hard and often for a good few rounds to put him away. But I have a feeling he is capable of doing that.

Biggest concern would be he gets drags into later rounds and Joyce keep working and eventually tires him out and slow punches him to death

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 16:41**

Also depends on Dubois, is he British level? Euro level? Or maybe even elite world level!

I guess he has already sparred with the likes of Chisora and Whyte, I wonder how he did?

He was also rumoured to have dropped AJ

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 16:52**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 15:03 Doo-bWAH

That give me PTSD

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 17:05**

black panther wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 15:45 Granted Stiverne was about 20lbs overweight when he fought Joyce but he still can punch and landed some corkers on Joyce who just asked for more.

Dubois may have to hit Joyce hard and often for a good few rounds to put him away. But I have a feeling he is capable of doing that.

Biggest concern would be he gets drags into later rounds and Joyce keep working and eventually tires him out and slow punches him to death

True he’s proved a decent chin and does look like a guy that’s take a punch but he’s not really taken on a proper banger yet. He was stopped as an amateur

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 17:14**

Coco wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 16:41 Also depends on Dubois, is he British level? Euro level? Or maybe even elite world level!

That's a good question.
I have no idea. His opponents have come from all over the place.
It's unorthodox really. DD is someone talked about as a hot prospect, and he looks the business, but that is without what I would call a quantifyable measuring post.
Hope this fight happens.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 17:17**

He would have no problems beating EBU level guys like Chris Hammer.

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 19:11**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 17:17 He would have no problems beating EBU level guys like Chris Hammer.

Once said about a certain Mr Price...

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 19:25**

Not by me

Posted: **08 Jan 2020, 19:30**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 17:17 He would have no problems beating EBU level guys like Chris Hammer.

Cojanu was for some Euro version.
Hammer? Yeah probably.
The Turk Umut Camkiran, more than likely.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 09:58**

I might change my mind when we get closer to the fight, but I'm leaning with Joyce at the moment. A few of his wins hold up far better than any of Dubois' results. As with most Fr@nk W@rren prospects it's all guess work on the part of the boxing fans...and that's how he likes it, so he can always tell you his guys are the best without proving it.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 11:38**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 17:17 He would have no problems beating EBU level guys like Chris Hammer.

Hammer won't go down easy.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 12:10**

Shhhh wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 10:20 Joe joyce too big too strong for DDD

see what you did there

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 12:29**

Shhhh wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 12:13
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 12:10

see what you did there
Lol thanks but it’s interesting Joyce is 1 inch taller and on average about 1 stone heavier. Even though dubwah looks like the hulk lol

Yeah Dubois does look thicker/heavier than Joyce weird

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 15:20**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 14:05
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 13:05 It's a good fight this.

Both relatively untested and both have their assets.

I'd think Joyce would need to have a great chin to prevail, but if he can control the fight and make dubous work for it, then could see him beating a tiring dubois.

Joyce's footwork and lack of defence makes me lean toward Dubois though.
You do get the impression Joyce has a breezeblock of a jaw don’t you, which is what makes this one interesting. Dubois will be hitting home runs on it, but will he tire, and how does he do in the trenches.

Joyce does look to have solid chin - you’d like to see DDD land a few and see how he takes them.

Joyce looks solid albeit one paced - he throws hundreds of shots but they don’t look concussive type punches - it’s just sheer output he throws. Don’t k ow if his volume of punches masks KO power that DDD has at lower level to date.

It is a solid 50-50 fight with various permutations for each.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 16:24**

Gnome wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 11:38
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jan 2020, 17:17 He would have no problems beating EBU level guys like Chris Hammer.
Hammer won't go down easy.

Yes he would, he isn't very good.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 16:32**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 16:24
Gnome wrote: ↑09 Jan 2020, 11:38

Hammer won't go down easy.
Yes he would, he isn't very good.

He took Ortiz and Povetkin the distance. Has he ever been put down?

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 16:52**

Fury and Wach and Price dropped him

He went the distance vs those guys, though he was in total survival mode. Still managed to bloody Ortiz up though.

Posted: **09 Jan 2020, 17:37**

A loss for either doesn't mean the end , obviously Joyce has less time because of his age.

Posted: **11 Jan 2020, 18:48**

This is a tricky one to predict.

I think Dubois has to win by stoppage if he's going to beat Joyce and with DDD's power it's always possible.

I don't like the fact Joyce will have been out of the ring 9 months by April 2020 because Joe has benefited hugely from being active.

That said, Joyce represents a big step up for DDD and if The Juggernaut can withstand the early bombs I take Joe to bludgeon Dubois to defeat.

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