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Re: Heavyweights : Muhammad Ali vs. Riddick Bowe

Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 17:09
by BoxBuzz
AntonioMartin wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 22:24
elmersalsa wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 20:44
AntonioMartin wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 09:45 There is an ocean of difference in talent between a prime Ali and a prime Bowe.

Ali by wide UD or late KO IMO>
An ocean of difference of talent between The Greatest and Big Daddy Bowe? Naaah!, I don't agree with that. Bowe is one of the most talented big men that I have seen in 40 plus years. I think that he was as good as Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes in terms of skill. Bowe Achilles' hill was that he was lazy. Maybe too lazy. But, he could fight!
He could fight and was an all time great..but Ali is the goat.....

At his very best.....I'm not sure anyone beats Bowe. On this I'm dead serious. However......I often go back to the fact that he was only great for a very short time. And that has to be considered. Ali was great to near great for a very very long period of time. And even when he was just "pretty good", he was able to perform above expectations.

You just can't compare this with Bowe's Lazy career of missed opportunities.

If you give Bowe Ali's work ethic you just might have the greatest of all time.
If you give Ali Bowe's work ethic, you just might end up with a "flash in the pan" superstar that became a fighter, got our attention, and disappeared.

Re: Heavyweights : Muhammad Ali vs. Riddick Bowe

Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 17:19
by f read
BoxBuzz wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 17:09
AntonioMartin wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 22:24
elmersalsa wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 20:44

An ocean of difference of talent between The Greatest and Big Daddy Bowe? Naaah!, I don't agree with that. Bowe is one of the most talented big men that I have seen in 40 plus years. I think that he was as good as Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes in terms of skill. Bowe Achilles' hill was that he was lazy. Maybe too lazy. But, he could fight!
He could fight and was an all time great..but Ali is the goat.....

At his very best.....I'm not sure anyone beats Bowe. On this I'm dead serious. However......I often go back to the fact that he was only great for a very short time. And that has to be considered. Ali was great to near great for a very very long period of time. And even when he was just "pretty good", he was able to perform above expectations.

You just can't compare this with Bowe's Lazy career of missed opportunities.

If you give Bowe Ali's work ethic you just might have the greatest of all time.
If you give Ali Bowe's work ethic, you just might end up with a "flash in the pan" superstar that became a fighter, got our attention, and disappeared.
Great inside game the first Holyfield fight on November 13 1992 he is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time in that fight. It is too bad it didnt last. He suffered much damage and was never the same again after the Golota fights in 1996.

Re: Heavyweights : Muhammad Ali vs. Riddick Bowe

Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 01:42
by oogiebe
f read wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 17:19
BoxBuzz wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 17:09
AntonioMartin wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 22:24
He could fight and was an all time great..but Ali is the goat.....

At his very best.....I'm not sure anyone beats Bowe. On this I'm dead serious. However......I often go back to the fact that he was only great for a very short time. And that has to be considered. Ali was great to near great for a very very long period of time. And even when he was just "pretty good", he was able to perform above expectations.

You just can't compare this with Bowe's Lazy career of missed opportunities.

If you give Bowe Ali's work ethic you just might have the greatest of all time.
If you give Ali Bowe's work ethic, you just might end up with a "flash in the pan" superstar that became a fighter, got our attention, and disappeared.
Great inside game the first Holyfield fight on November 13 1992 he is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time in that fight. It is too bad it didnt last. He suffered much damage and was never the same again after the Golota fights in 1996.
Maybe we should debate Bowe (from first Holy fight) vs Buster Douglas (vs Mike Tyson). :maybe: