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Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 03:27
by Betro09
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 02:20 What's with all the fights in the Middle East? Dude gonna fight in Yemen, Jordan and Iraq next?

Too bad it's not Bald Bull. He'd probably get taken out in the 1st round with a well timed body shot, but he could always bull that upset with his Bull Charge :OhYes:
If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 03:49
by margaret thatcher
Middle East isn't a continent is it, has parts of different continents? though it's kinda a vague term that gets used differently, but I've heard before that at least some of Turkey is part of it? It's an interesting country that seems culturally not quite with the rest of europe yet not with nearby countries like Iraq either

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 05:43
by watsupdoc87
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 03:49 Middle East isn't a continent is it, has parts of different continents? though it's kinda a vague term that gets used differently, but I've heard before that at least some of Turkey is part of it? It's an interesting country that seems culturally not quite with the rest of europe yet not with nearby countries like Iraq either
Turkey classified as Europe but was always the bridge between Europe and Asia( Byzantine, Constantinople, Istanbul). Middle East isn't a continent considered the Arabian peninsula and sometimes the north Africa Arabian countries ie Egypt Tunisia Lybia Algeria :bag:

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 12:44
by gilgamesh
Betro09 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 03:27
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 02:20 What's with all the fights in the Middle East? Dude gonna fight in Yemen, Jordan and Iraq next?

Too bad it's not Bald Bull. He'd probably get taken out in the 1st round with a well timed body shot, but he could always bull that upset with his Bull Charge :OhYes:
If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.
The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 13:29
by lookingaround87
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 12:44
Betro09 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 03:27

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.
The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.
Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 13:32
by gilgamesh
lookingaround87 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 13:29
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 12:44

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.
Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.
Whether it's part of Europe or not, it's part of the Middle East because it's associated, and near all those countries.

Hong Kong technically belonged to Britain for the longest too, but to most people it's China.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 14:18
by lookingaround87
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 13:32
lookingaround87 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 13:29

Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.
Whether it's part of Europe or not, it's part of the Middle East because it's associated, and near all those countries.

Hong Kong technically belonged to Britain for the longest too, but to most people it's China.
Istanbul is on the continent of Europe. How can you compare that to Britain controlling Hong Kong? Istanbul is NOT 'the middle east', because geographically, it's literally part of the European continent. You seem to not be aware that Turkey is part of both Asia & Europe.

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Imagine comparing that to Hong Kong. LOL

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 15:16
by Betro09
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 12:44
Betro09 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 03:27

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.
The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.
I never said Middle East is a continent. I said if the fight takes place in İstanbul, it will take place in Europe continent.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 16:11
by boxing_rocks
Betro09 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 15:16
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 12:44

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.
I never said Middle East is a continent. I said if the fight takes place in İstanbul, it will take place in Europe continent.
Hong Kong was a part of China conquered by Britain. Stambul (Konstantinopol) is a part of Greece/Europe conquered by Turkey.

Re: It is official Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 01:30
by Finkel
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 13:01
Finkel wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 12:45 Well i wouldn't say you are wrong about twice
every year, but Lewis frequently fought every 5 months and sometimes even less, as did Bowe, Moorer and Tyson. So sometimes the fewer months resulted in 3 fights in a calendar year.
From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From the January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From the January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.
So I think I’ve found the data to support the point I am trying to make. My issue is I don’t feel Joshua as a unified champion is defending the belts with enough regularity I looked at the various unified champions from Tyson onward. If we only consider unified championship runs which included at least one successful defence we are left with Tyson, Hollyfield I, Bowe, Hollyfield III, Lewis I, Lewis II, Klitschko and Joshua.

Tyson became unified champion at age 21, and defended on average once every 3.89 months

Hollyfield became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.25 months

Bowe became unified champion at age 21, and defending avg every 4 months

Hollyfield III became unified champion at age 35, and defending avg every 8 months

Lewis I became unified champion at age 32, and defending avg every 4.25 months

Lewis II became unified champion at age 36, and defending avg every 9.5 months

Klitschko became unified champion at age 31, and defending avg every 6.2 months

Joshua became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.5 months

Only Holyfield and Lewis in their final championship runs (outside their prime) fought less frequently than Joshua.
Whereas Joshua who is in prime and aged 30 is defending less frequently than Klitschko whose run was between the ages of 31 and 39.

Joshua needs to pick up the pace, or drop one of the belts.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 04:05
by gilgamesh
I love that you included Bowe and his lengthy 2 title defense reign :lol:

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 04:27
by Onetimeonly
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Re: It is official Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 04:42
by Enlightened-One
Finkel wrote: 20 Jan 2020, 01:30
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 13:01
From January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.
So I think I’ve found the data to support the point I am trying to make. My issue is I don’t feel Joshua as a unified champion is defending the belts with enough regularity I looked at the various unified champions from Tyson onward. If we only consider unified championship runs which included at least one successful defence we are left with Tyson, Hollyfield I, Bowe, Hollyfield III, Lewis I, Lewis II, Klitschko and Joshua.

Tyson became unified champion at age 21, and defended on average once every 3.89 months

Hollyfield became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.25 months

Bowe became unified champion at age 21, and defending avg every 4 months

Hollyfield III became unified champion at age 35, and defending avg every 8 months

Lewis I became unified champion at age 32, and defending avg every 4.25 months

Lewis II became unified champion at age 36, and defending avg every 9.5 months

Klitschko became unified champion at age 31, and defending avg every 6.2 months

Joshua became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.5 months

Only Holyfield and Lewis in their final championship runs (outside their prime) fought less frequently than Joshua.
Whereas Joshua who is in prime and aged 30 is defending less frequently than Klitschko whose run was between the ages of 31 and 39.

Joshua needs to pick up the pace, or drop one of the belts.
Didn’t you originally claim that 1990’s heavyweights, such as Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer and Tyson, typically competed every four months or so (or roughly three times per year)?

Why gather stats specifically based on these guys title reigns, where some of them were incredibly short or commenced in the 1980’s?

I don’t know what to say really, because part of me is impressed that you’ve made the effort to perform research, but another part of me is confused about you listing stats that don’t appear to support your own argument.

Anyway, we’ll just agree to disagree. :TU:

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 13:14
by boxing_rocks
Hearn says that Joshua's next fight will be in London:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/22/anthony- ... wsnow-feed

Re: It is official Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:55
by SportsRatings
Finkel wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 20:04
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 13:01
From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From the January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From the January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.
Well played!
But I'm not quite ready to admit defeat yet. :TU:
I need to sit down and see if taking into account age, championship reigns and periods of imprisonment will help me make my case stronger. :lol:
Here's the only good example of the last 50 years:

A supposedly over-the-hill, end-of-career Muhammad Ali defended his title in March, May, and June of 1975.

And again, in February, April, and May of 1976.

That's right,, a mid-30s Ali fought THREE TIMES in FOUR MONTHS. On two occasions! And in-between these two periods, he fought the Thrilla in Manilla.

Now we can't get any champ to fight just ONCE in four months.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 02:46
by Sagaroth
A new info for us (The Fans):
The new rumor from Hearn himself suggest that the bout is 99% a done deal. It should happen at Tottenham Stadium with Spurs’ ground ‘front runner’ ahead of Arsenal’s Emirates. The match should be official within 7 days from now.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 05:31
by gregregegg
Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?

Re: It is official Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 Istanbul

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 08:07
by Enlightened-One
SportsRatings wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 18:55
Finkel wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 20:04

Well played!
But I'm not quite ready to admit defeat yet. :TU:
I need to sit down and see if taking into account age, championship reigns and periods of imprisonment will help me make my case stronger. :lol:
Here's the only good example of the last 50 years:

A supposedly over-the-hill, end-of-career Muhammad Ali defended his title in March, May, and June of 1975.

And again, in February, April, and May of 1976.

That's right,, a mid-30s Ali fought THREE TIMES in FOUR MONTHS. On two occasions! And in-between these two periods, he fought the Thrilla in Manilla.
I pretty much said that earlier on in this thread. :TU:

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 08:29
by Enlightened-One
Sagaroth wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 02:46 A new info for us (The Fans):
The new rumor from Hearn himself suggest that the bout is 99% a done deal. It should happen at Tottenham Stadium with Spurs’ ground ‘front runner’ ahead of Arsenal’s Emirates. The match should be official within 7 days from now.
Additional info.

Apparently AJ wants the bout staged in June, which would be six months after his most recent outing.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 10:33
by tiny_acres
gregregegg wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 05:31 Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?
:lol: it's funny to read about we are announcing that an announcement is coming. More to follow after that announcement

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev June 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 18:49
by Bandog
Next they will announce that there will be an announcement of who will be on "standby" in case Pulev pulls out again. :roll:

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev June 2020 London

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 19:18
by joshj909
Bandog wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 18:49 Next they will announce that there will be an announcement of who will be on "standby" in case Pulev pulls out again. :roll:
Didn't think of that. They had Takam lined up last time prepared so it's safe to assume they would again. It would have to be someone ranked by the IBF and with connections to Hearn, so Kabayel? Hunter? Zhang?

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev May 2020 London

Posted: 08 Feb 2020, 22:58
by ewenhay
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 10:33
gregregegg wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 05:31 Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?
:lol: it's funny to read about we are announcing that an announcement is coming. More to follow after that announcement
Matchroom announcements are more eagerly anticipated than most of their fights these days

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev June 2020 London

Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 06:46
by samwbr
Pulev got deported from the US yesterday whilst trying to board an internal flight to Vegas.

Re: RUMOR: Joshua vs Pulev June 2020 London

Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 06:47
by joshj909
samwbr wrote: 23 Feb 2020, 06:46 Pulev got deported from the US yesterday whilst trying to board an internal flight to Vegas.
Is there a report on this?