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Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 19:43
by IsaL
For a minute I thought I was in the twilight zone reading through this post. In what parallel universe does Golovkin hold two wins over Canelo? LMAO!!

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 20:08
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Jacobs
Derevyanchenko
Murray
Geale
Lemieux

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 20:14
by IsaL
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 20:08 Jacobs
Derevyanchenko
Murray
Geale
Lemieux
Pretty clear cut :TU:

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 20:21
by boxing_rocks
IsaL wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 19:43 For a minute I thought I was in the twilight zone reading through this post. In what parallel universe does Golovkin hold two wins over Canelo? LMAO!!
In the universe where winning a round gives you 10 points.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 20:29
by Jeff_lacy_ko
If you count 2 canelo fights as wins you could just as easy count jacobs and derevyanchenko as 2 losses

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 21:48
by Perseus
boxing_rocks wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 20:21
IsaL wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 19:43 For a minute I thought I was in the twilight zone reading through this post. In what parallel universe does Golovkin hold two wins over Canelo? LMAO!!
In the universe where winning a round gives you 10 points.
You mean in the universe of butthurt whiners who can't accept results they don't like.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 21:55
by tiny_acres
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 20:29 If you count 2 canelo fights as wins you could just as easy count jacobs and derevyanchenko as 2 losses
Nicely said. We dont have to agree with the decisions but we can't rewrite history

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 22:18
by margaret thatcher
GGG deserved the win the first time but clearly deserved an L in the rematch

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 22:28
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 22:18 GGG deserved the win the first time but clearly deserved an L in the rematch
Win 1st time. No worse than draw 2nd time IMO.

Canelo certainly fought better, and when he got a draw the 1st time laying on the ropes just doing better is all he had to do.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 04:00
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 22:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 22:18 GGG deserved the win the first time but clearly deserved an L in the rematch
Win 1st time. No worse than draw 2nd time IMO.

Canelo certainly fought better, and when he got a draw the 1st time laying on the ropes just doing better is all he had to do.
Spot on first fight, ridiculous second fight. I'd love to hear the 6 RDS definitively won by GGG. Hell I'll rewatch it before I give you the lol emoticon. I'm guessing he had 2.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 06:25
by apollo creed
Let's not forget that Canelo was the much younger fighter and also he was full of mexican beef plus the judges on his side. He had all the big advantages.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
by boxing_rocks
Onetimeonly wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 04:00
gilgamesh wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 22:28

Win 1st time. No worse than draw 2nd time IMO.

Canelo certainly fought better, and when he got a draw the 1st time laying on the ropes just doing better is all he had to do.
Spot on first fight, ridiculous second fight. I'd love to hear the 6 RDS definitively won by GGG. Hell I'll rewatch it before I give you the lol emoticon. I'm guessing he had 2.
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 10:55
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
Onetimeonly wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 04:00

Spot on first fight, ridiculous second fight. I'd love to hear the 6 RDS definitively won by GGG. Hell I'll rewatch it before I give you the lol emoticon. I'm guessing he had 2.
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.
Maybe Canelo won 6 rds from both fights cumulated.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 11:06
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:55
boxing_rocks wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.
Maybe Canelo won 6 rds from both fights cumulated.
The second fight was close and very few rounds could be scored definitively.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 11:42
by Onetimeonly
boxing_rocks wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
Onetimeonly wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 04:00

Spot on first fight, ridiculous second fight. I'd love to hear the 6 RDS definitively won by GGG. Hell I'll rewatch it before I give you the lol emoticon. I'm guessing he had 2.
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.
Good luck with that.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 12:48
by Stuarty
Had GGG winning the first and Canelo winning the rematch. If a third happens there's only one winner. GGG on the slide now unfortunately.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:36
by brilo33
1. jacobs
2.Derevyanchenko
3.macklin
4.Geale
5.brook

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:39
by brilo33
when i watched ggg v jacobs on the night, i thought ggg got given the home fighter decision

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:40
by tiny_acres
Stuarty wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 12:48 Had GGG winning the first and Canelo winning the rematch. If a third happens there's only one winner. GGG on the slide now unfortunately.
I had GGG winning the first one closely.
Canelo winning the second.
You are right if there's a third I dont give GGG much of a chance

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:41
by tiny_acres
brilo33 wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 15:39 when i watched ggg v jacobs on the night, i thought ggg got given the home fighter decision
I had it a close but clear decision for GGG

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:43
by brilo33
tiny_acres wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 15:41
brilo33 wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 15:39 when i watched ggg v jacobs on the night, i thought ggg got given the home fighter decision
I had it a close but clear decision for GGG
yea, agree after watching back , but it was close fight ggg couldnt bully , why i think that was his best win

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 16:11
by IsaL
boxing_rocks wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
Onetimeonly wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 04:00

Spot on first fight, ridiculous second fight. I'd love to hear the 6 RDS definitively won by GGG. Hell I'll rewatch it before I give you the lol emoticon. I'm guessing he had 2.
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.
Rounds 1-4 and 10-12

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 17:15
by boxing_rocks
IsaL wrote: 30 Jan 2020, 16:11
boxing_rocks wrote: 25 Jan 2020, 10:46
I want to hear 6 rounds definitively won by Canelo.
Rounds 1-4 and 10-12
LOL about rounds 10-12 definitively won by Canelo. 1-4 are also not that clear.

Re: What are GGG's best five wins?

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 19:29
by IsaL
boxing_rocks wrote: 30 Jan 2020, 17:15
IsaL wrote: 30 Jan 2020, 16:11

Rounds 1-4 and 10-12
LOL about rounds 10-12 definitively won by Canelo. 1-4 are also not that clear.
The entire fight was close.

I'm not sure what criteria you use to score a fight, but I use the same one judges in the Pro ranks do, the 10 pt. must scoring system.

According to the 10 pt. must you have to score Defense, Clean punching, Ring generalship, Effective aggression.

No where in the rule book does it say the fighter that landed more punches wins..

And really Golovkin only averaged 2.5 more punches than Canelo. And those punches were jabs. Canelo on the other hand landed the harder, cleaner, flashier punches, demonstrated better defense, connected at a higher rate, and fought his fight for at the very least half of the fight.