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Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:06
by snake33
This will not make Usyk any more dangerous to the top guys.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 15:25
by Verdi
snake33 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2020, 15:06
This will not make Usyk any more dangerous to the top guys.
Chisora is a well respected heavyweight. Only the very best have an easy fight with him. If Usyk puts on a very one-sided performance, it'll certainly make the top guys sit up and take note.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:40
by brilo33
Usyk, KO stops him for me, usky is strong big puncher throws more than 1 punch , mid rd stoppage
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 19:54
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2020, 18:40
Usyk, KO stops him for me, usky is strong big puncher throws more than 1 punch , mid rd stoppage
I'll give him all props if that happens.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:36
by brilo33
when Kabayel beat chisora i thought he was finshed , give him his dues,he came back stronger , but del boy suffers against big geezers who can move and box, but respect to del boy if the fight happens
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 23:54
by Ron C
Usyk 117-111
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 04:52
by Evander
Can a 215 USYK take consistent body shots from a 240 Pound + over 12 rounds ?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 05:17
by Paci
Usyk stops Chisora after 9th.
Shouldn't he fight Parker down the line now for the WBO-strap?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 05:25
by Evander
Both under the same promotional banner.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 05:54
by Verdi
Evander wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 04:52
Can a 215 USYK take consistent body shots from a 240 Pound + over 12 rounds ?
That is the golden question. Chisora has come in around 260 for his past few fights and he has power in those hands for 12 rounds. Usyk has a great defence, but will his defence hold up against a seasoned guy 50+lbs heavier than he is?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 05:58
by Evander
Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 05:54
Evander wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 04:52
Can a 215 USYK take consistent body shots from a 240 Pound + over 12 rounds ?
That is the golden question. Chisora has come in around 260 for his past few fights and he has power in those hands for 12 rounds. Usyk has a great defence, but will his defence hold up against a seasoned guy 50+lbs heavier than he is?
How long Chisora can do it for might be a more important question.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 08:38
by Syntax Error
Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 05:54
Evander wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 04:52
Can a 215 USYK take consistent body shots from a 240 Pound + over 12 rounds ?
That is the golden question. Chisora has come in around 260 for his past few fights and he has power in those hands for 12 rounds. Usyk has a great defence, but will his defence hold up against a seasoned guy 50+lbs heavier than he is?
Chisora shouldn't ever be weighing 260.
He is carrying far too much blubber at that weight and would be a sitting duck.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 08:57
by Verdi
Syntax Error wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 08:38
Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 05:54
That is the golden question. Chisora has come in around 260 for his past few fights and he has power in those hands for 12 rounds. Usyk has a great defence, but will his defence hold up against a seasoned guy 50+lbs heavier than he is?
Chisora shouldn't ever be weighing 260.
He is carrying far too much blubber at that weight and would be a sitting duck.
I think much of his bodyweight increase over the past few years has been muscle mass. His body fat percentage hasn't changed much and may have actually fallen compared to a few of his previous fights.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 28 Jan 2020, 12:58
by Paci
Looking foreward too the press confs. Chisora is gotta gone into full war-mode or something with a big fight like this.
Might get a shot down the line is on stake or some dumb thing like that. Since well, both guys are names among other things with rankings and so on.
Still pissed that Parker bailed on their fight. Chisora just walked over Price was no fun. Thou, hope Price got a good paycheck for it.
I do think Usyk will win. But a focused Chisora with a goal is something extra.
Even if Derek loses, I do piss on his politics but respect that he fought everyone more or less.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 28 Jan 2020, 16:45
by fanman
Usyk always shows his class as the challenge steps up. I'd imagine he'd use speed here to dance around chisora and build up a big points lead.
I'm doubtful that chisora is quick enough to catch him with too much. Still a very respectable opponent.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 28 Jan 2020, 18:36
by Syntax Error
fanman wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020, 16:45
Usyk always shows his class as the challenge steps up. I'd imagine he'd use speed here to dance around chisora and build up a big points lead.
I'm doubtful that chisora is quick enough to catch him with too much. Still a very respectable opponent.
That's how I see it too.
It would be nice if Chisora could rough up Usyk to see how he handles HW pressure, but Chisora is not the guy to do that.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 28 Jan 2020, 19:52
by Contendeh
Usyk by UD12. Too much ring savvy. I like this fight though.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 05:15
by Enlightened-One
Chisora enters the ring about 20lbs heavier than his ideal fighting weight, woefully unprepared, resulting in him losing a lop-sided decision to a safety-first, though utterly dominant, Oleksandr Usyk.
During the aftermath of this one-sided affair, many hardcore boxing aficionados will be claiming that Usyk is much better than the likes of Fury, Wilder and Joshua, despite them previously asserting that Chisora has never earned the right to be considered a world-rated fighter (whenever the Brit faced other big-names).
In reality, Dereck Chisora isn’t a top-ten world-rated heavyweight. It might even be flattering him a tad to consider him amongst the top-15 of the division.
This is a good learning fight for Oleksandr Usyk though, as it’ll help him acclimatise to his new heavier habitat, since he’ll inevitably have to adapt in order to cope with having to withstand occasional punishment inflicted by bigger foes.
Usyk's performance against Chisora has to be better than his previous outing against Witherspoon, because if it isn't, then I wouldn’t give him much chance to beat the likes of Fury, Wilder and Joshua.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 05:31
by danconnollyeire
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:15
Chisora enters the ring about 20lbs heavier than his ideal fighting weight, woefully unprepared, resulting in him losing a lop-sided decision to a safety-first, though utterly dominant, Oleksandr Usyk.
During the aftermath of this one-sided affair, many hardcore boxing aficionados will be claiming that Usyk is much better than the likes of Fury, Wilder and Joshua, despite them previously asserting that Chisora has never earned the right to be considered a world-rated fighter (whenever the Brit faced other big-names).
Someone's been smashing out the old thesaurus.com
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 09:46
by oogiebe
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:31
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:15
Chisora enters the ring about 20lbs heavier than his ideal fighting weight, woefully unprepared, resulting in him losing a lop-sided decision to a safety-first, though utterly dominant, Oleksandr Usyk.
During the aftermath of this one-sided affair, many hardcore boxing aficionados will be claiming that Usyk is much better than the likes of Fury, Wilder and Joshua, despite them previously asserting that Chisora has never earned the right to be considered a world-rated fighter (whenever the Brit faced other big-names).
Someone's been smashing out the old thesaurus.com

Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 09:54
by danconnollyeire
oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 09:46
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:31
Someone's been smashing out the old thesaurus.com
To be equitable, I kind of acquiesce with what the fellow has aforementioned in his proclamation
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 10:32
by jamesmcdonnell
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:31
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 05:15
Chisora enters the ring about 20lbs heavier than his ideal fighting weight, woefully unprepared, resulting in him losing a lop-sided decision to a safety-first, though utterly dominant, Oleksandr Usyk.
During the aftermath of this one-sided affair, many hardcore boxing aficionados will be claiming that Usyk is much better than the likes of Fury, Wilder and Joshua, despite them previously asserting that Chisora has never earned the right to be considered a world-rated fighter (whenever the Brit faced other big-names).
Someone's been smashing out the old thesaurus.com
Really? Hardly obscure wording there....?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 10:33
by jamesmcdonnell
Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 08:57
Syntax Error wrote: ↑26 Jan 2020, 08:38
Chisora shouldn't ever be weighing 260.
He is carrying far too much blubber at that weight and would be a sitting duck.
I think much of his bodyweight increase over the past few years has been muscle mass. His body fat percentage hasn't changed much and may have actually fallen compared to a few of his previous fights.
How do you know what his body fat percentage is?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 10:47
by oogiebe
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 09:54
To be equitable, I kind of acquiesce with what the fellow has aforementioned in his proclamation

Re: Usyk vs. Chisora, March 28, who wins ?
Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 18:47
by Grilling Machine
I know I'm making an apples-and-oranges point until Usyk's further into his heavyweight career, but I find it interesting that so many rate Uysk above Haye as a cruiser, saw Haye beat Chisora in their mutual primes, and now (possibly?) see Chisora as a threat to Usyk.
The intimation is that Haye's power was his get-out-of-jail, and despite having superior skills Usyk might come unstuck against heavies without it. I fancy Chisora's too plodding, but you never know.