Heavyweight Prospect Efe Ajagba returning on 7th March

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Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 13:24
oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 12:35
What do you consider him?
A boxer. A prospect to me is someone who has a chance of being an excellent fighter.
Fair enough. You're a tough audience! :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:10
Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 13:24

A boxer. A prospect to me is someone who has a chance of being an excellent fighter.
Fair enough. You're a tough audience! :TU:
On occasion, a boxer ends up better than I thought, but not often. If anything, it's the other way around.

He didn't show me anything special the couple of times I saw him.
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Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:26
oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:10

Fair enough. You're a tough audience! :TU:
On occasion, a boxer ends up better than I thought, but not often. If anything, it's the other way around.

He didn't show me anything special the couple of times I saw him.
He hasn't shown the development I was hoping for the last two times out. Ronny Shields is a decent trainer. I'll give Efe another couple of fights to show better skills, or else he's off my watch list. He has that power and a decent engine. The lad needs head movement and a better ability to to cut off the ring and keep his freakin' hands up.
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oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:33
Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:26

On occasion, a boxer ends up better than I thought, but not often. If anything, it's the other way around.

He didn't show me anything special the couple of times I saw him.
He hasn't shown the development I was hoping for the last two times out. Ronny Shields is a decent trainer. I'll give Efe another couple of fights to show better skills, or else he's off my watch list. He has that power and a decent engine. The lad needs head movement and a better ability to to cut off the ring and keep his freakin' hands up.
He seems to lack identity. Is he a boxer, a power guy, or a boxer-puncher? He's just there.
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Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:37
oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:33
He hasn't shown the development I was hoping for the last two times out. Ronny Shields is a decent trainer. I'll give Efe another couple of fights to show better skills, or else he's off my watch list. He has that power and a decent engine. The lad needs head movement and a better ability to to cut off the ring and keep his freakin' hands up.
He seems to lack identity. Is he a boxer, a power guy, or a boxer-puncher? He's just there.
Oh he's a power guy for certain.
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I mean, if you were counting on him to be some elite smashing machine monster, ya, it hasn't been great lately, but still, look at the division as a whole, I can easily see him being solidly up there as one of the top 10 fighters a few years from now.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 15:41 I mean, if you were counting on him to be some elite smashing machine monster, ya, it hasn't been great lately, but still, look at the division as a whole, I can easily see him being solidly up there as one of the top 10 fighters a few years from now.
Agreed.
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I stay up all night thinking about who he is and who he'll fight. He's SO relevant.
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oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 17:16
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 15:41 I mean, if you were counting on him to be some elite smashing machine monster, ya, it hasn't been great lately, but still, look at the division as a whole, I can easily see him being solidly up there as one of the top 10 fighters a few years from now.
Agreed.
After few years in top 10 ?
I believe Ajagba can beat few top 10 as of today. Just because of one knock down, you are trashing Ajagba. Tyson fury got knock down by a cruiserweight too.
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Maybe he could, but instead he's fighting Cojanu :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 00:34 Maybe he could, but instead he's fighting Cojanu :lol:
There is no point for Ajagba handlers to risk fighting top 10 and even he goes up very high in ranking, its takes another 2 year alone for joshua, fury, wilder to settle fighting each other ... it's all about them at least for another 2 years.

I'm 101% sure every promotor, manager and trainer in business is aware of this matter already.
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oogiebe wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:33
Tony1244 wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 14:26 On occasion, a boxer ends up better than I thought, but not often. If anything, it's the other way around.

He didn't show me anything special the couple of times I saw him.
He hasn't shown the development I was hoping for the last two times out. Ronny Shields is a decent trainer. I'll give Efe another couple of fights to show better skills, or else he's off my watch list. He has that power and a decent engine. The lad needs head movement and a better ability to to cut off the ring and keep his freakin' hands up.
Good points amigo!! Like you, I was one of Efe's biggest early supporters because of the raw power and decent skills he showed in his first 9-10 pro fights and thought he belonged on the fast track. He didnt even look that bad in his clearcut 10-round decision over fellow Olympian Demirezen, but against mediocre journeyman Kiladze he seemed to be regressing instead of progressing. Shields is a world-class trainer and needs to make some serious changes in Ajagba's game.

BOTTOM LINE: Efe is going to need a lot more work than I originally thought and I dont expect him to be matched up very ambitiously in the near future. He could turn out to be a top 10 guy eventually but it will take a lot longer than I thought before!!
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It's pretty pathetic to constantly beg for accolades. I know you're almost always wrong, but it reeks of desperation seething about the time you were right last year. At some point, kid, you gotta grow up.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 00:23 It's pretty pathetic to constantly beg for accolades. I know you're almost always wrong, but it reeks of desperation seething about the time you were right last year. At some point, kid, you gotta grow up.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 00:10.
Changed your mind?
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oogiebe wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 08:44
Enlightened-One wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 00:10.
Changed your mind?
Not really. I retracted my post because I regretted the severity of the tone in which I previously conveyed my honest opinion. :TU:

It was poor judgement on my part, even though everything I wrote was entirely accurate.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 08:52
oogiebe wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 08:44

Changed your mind?
Not really. I retracted my post because I regretted the severity of the tone in which I previously conveyed my honest opinion. :TU:

It was poor judgement on my part, even though everything I wrote was entirely accurate.
Truth hurts brother. Don't hold back :bag:
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I'm quite disappointed with marketing that Ajagba team doing on him. We are in about big fight wilder vs fury, they should do him lot of interviews and training footage with two above fighters brought up , so he can get lot of exposure.

I think for the reason Ajagba is most underpaid HW prospect, earning BULLSHIT 10k $ USD , so his team doesn't even care , because they haven't invested in him, and finally will dumb him if he can't perform or milk him until last day.
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Boxtune wrote: 20 Feb 2020, 23:52 I'm quite disappointed with marketing that Ajagba team doing on him. We are in about big fight wilder vs fury, they should do him lot of interviews and training footage with two above fighters brought up , so he can get lot of exposure.

I think for the reason Ajagba is most underpaid HW prospect, earning BULLSHIT 10k $ USD , so his team doesn't even care , because they haven't invested in him, and finally will dumb him if he can't perform or milk him until last day.
there is no point anyone doing any HW promo this week unless its wilder / fury
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