Coco wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 06:23
I wonder if folk went through Kugans posts for 15 years, would they find anything?
You look back at anyone’s posts, you’ll find something.
I thought it was something Umar said recently. Bloody hell. Must have at leave been 10 years ago
Well he did break the law and threaten Patel at a press conference
and that was that business with Klitschko manager
From Kugans Facebook.
"I hate the world right now. Just to let you know, Bernd Bonte, the silver haired midget prick who is Wladimir Klitschko's manager has barred me from going to Joshua v Klitschko tomorrow night. 18 months ago he banned me from interviewing Klitschko as apparently i am too involved with Tyson Fury and Team Fury. So after an arguement a year ago, i decided to stay away from Team Klitschko for the whole of the build up to this Joshua fight. But still the little dwarf pudendum has done this. Been going to Matchroom shows for 7 years, IFL hasnt missed one in SEVEN years and its not them, its Klitschko's lot, but this is actually heart-breaking that I wont be there for the biggest fight in British boxing. My life is fornicating boxing. Right now i hate the sport. fornicate you bernd bonte you complete and utter pudendum."
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 09:27
by Black Sam Bellamy
The bigger story for me is the absolute nosedive in the quality of output from iFL over the past 12 months. Utter rubbish now.
the bar is pretty low for toughness and shock nowadays, eh?
Indeed, blandness seems so be in.
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 09:47
by Glass Joe
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 09:27
The bigger story for me is the absolute nosedive in the quality of output from iFL over the past 12 months. Utter rubbish now.
IFL should try and pinch Rob Tebbutt from boxing social.
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 09:27
The bigger story for me is the absolute nosedive in the quality of output from iFL over the past 12 months. Utter rubbish now.
IFL should try and pinch Rob Tebbutt from boxing social.
Doesn’t he own it
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 10:38
by Glass Joe
says Head of Content at Boxing Social on his linkedin
Perhaps he made some ill-advised social media comments 4 years ago which left IFL incredibly shocked and reeling from such a tough week
Dugan found out about his sailor boy rap video where he's threatening to 'put em in the back of the trunk' and couldn't have that type of thing at IFL...
Perhaps he made some ill-advised social media comments 4 years ago which left IFL incredibly shocked and reeling from such a tough week
Dugan found out about his sailor boy rap video where he's threatening to 'put em in the back of the trunk' and couldn't have that type of thing at IFL...
You look back at anyone’s posts, you’ll find something.
I thought it was something Umar said recently. Bloody hell. Must have at leave been 10 years ago
Well he did break the law and threaten Patel at a press conference
and that was that business with Klitschko manager
From Kugans Facebook.
"I hate the world right now. Just to let you know, Bernd Bonte, the silver haired midget prick who is Wladimir Klitschko's manager has barred me from going to Joshua v Klitschko tomorrow night. 18 months ago he banned me from interviewing Klitschko as apparently i am too involved with Tyson Fury and Team Fury. So after an arguement a year ago, i decided to stay away from Team Klitschko for the whole of the build up to this Joshua fight. But still the little dwarf pudendum has done this. Been going to Matchroom shows for 7 years, IFL hasnt missed one in SEVEN years and its not them, its Klitschko's lot, but this is actually heart-breaking that I wont be there for the biggest fight in British boxing. My life is fornicating boxing. Right now i hate the sport. fornicate you bernd bonte you complete and utter pudendum."
What is he on about, Boente has to be at least 6'2.
Muttley wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 06:36
Never heard of him but this is a perfect example of why I left the sport and journalism in general a while ago . No disrespect to those boxing/sports writers/journos but this is what happens when untrained 'journalists' are let loose with a camera and a dictation phone. Of course I know the profession has changed and I changed with it. But in my day we had to go to college/University and work our way up on the local papers and radio stations. We were trained properly and respected boundaries but that does not happen nowadays.
That said I trained and worked with some excellent young sports journalists over the years and am very proud of them so there are some really good young and talented people in the profession as well. I just wish boxing promoters PR companies would vet people properly
pussy and views these days
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 17:22
by Cyclops
I do feel lucky to have missed out on all that stitching yourself up forever on Social Media when you're 16 or whatever. I can vaguely recall some emo kids being on MySpace when I was at uni, and not really understanding it. I don't think I even ended up on Facebook until I was about 26. Never had twitter.
I only got an iPhone in the end because everybody was bang on Tinder when it first came out.
I wouldn't know who Umar IFL Umar was though if it wasn't for Tyan Boothe. I liked IFL when they started. Then it sort of went to their heads a little bit. Don't hate them or anything, like. Just don't watch much of their stuff anymore.
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 18:39
by bripez
Glass Joe wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 10:19
Just because you come across nice on camera/social media, doesn't mean you are nice in real-world, saying them things even at 16 isn't a good sign. It becomes a business decision to get rid of him. could hurt IFL sponsors and views.
It becomes a business decision to get rid of him. could hurt IFL sponsors and views
.
That tweet is disgraceful - it shows a complete misunderstanding of the difference between “ your” and “you’re”
And Fowler is no better with his “there” / “their” / “ they’re” confusion
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 19:43
by TheLeprechaun
Muttley wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 06:36
Never heard of him but this is a perfect example of why I left the sport and journalism in general a while ago . No disrespect to those boxing/sports writers/journos but this is what happens when untrained 'journalists' are let loose with a camera and a dictation phone. Of course I know the profession has changed and I changed with it. But in my day we had to go to college/University and work our way up on the local papers and radio stations. We were trained properly and respected boundaries but that does not happen nowadays.
That said I trained and worked with some excellent young sports journalists over the years and am very proud of them so there are some really good young and talented people in the profession as well. I just wish boxing promoters PR companies would vet people properly
Good post.
Can't be easy as a legit journo who has invested in an education to see prats like Umar in the game. I suppose it's all about who you know in that game.
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 21:34
by keirw
Muttley wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 06:36
Never heard of him but this is a perfect example of why I left the sport and journalism in general a while ago . No disrespect to those boxing/sports writers/journos but this is what happens when untrained 'journalists' are let loose with a camera and a dictation phone. Of course I know the profession has changed and I changed with it. But in my day we had to go to college/University and work our way up on the local papers and radio stations. We were trained properly and respected boundaries but that does not happen nowadays.
That said I trained and worked with some excellent young sports journalists over the years and am very proud of them so there are some really good young and talented people in the profession as well. I just wish boxing promoters PR companies would vet people properly
100% true, so many online 'joirnalist' care less about reporting facts and more about shouting their mouths off and being as controversial as possible.
Youtube has lowered standards across the board, though.
My kids used to watch cartoons, they were crap, but at least they had some sort of story element to them and often had underline messages about helping others or working as a team.
Now they watch videos of grown adults acting like kids. It makes my skin crawl.
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 22:09
by margaret thatcher
In this age, every person on Twitter etc is 'Writer, journalist, author, historian, public speaker, commentator, husband, proud dad to the 2 best kids in the world, and always giving 110 percent'
etc
It has lowered the level of committment and quality required, but, there are a lot of very good writers and ppl with good /interesting stuff on boxing who would prob never gotten the same platform back when it was much much harder to get your stuff out. There are some aspects i like and some i don't like about it
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 04 Feb 2020, 22:55
by Grilling Machine
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 17:22I only got an iPhone in the end because everybody was bang on Tinder when it first came out.
I paid £50 for one a few years back just for a running app. Still don't have the balls for Tinder, but I think that's justified where I live!
I wasn't Jane Couch's biggest fan, but I never liked Kugan for the way he swooped in and grabbed all the work she'd put in. They could've split their coverage and let her carry on doing local stuff, where she was a regular face anyway.
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 17:22I only got an iPhone in the end because everybody was bang on Tinder when it first came out.
I paid £50 for one a few years back just for a running app. Still don't have the balls for Tinder, but I think that's justified where I live!
I wasn't Jane Couch's biggest fan, but I never liked Kugan for the way he swooped in and grabbed all the work she'd put in. They could've split their coverage and let her carry on doing local stuff, where she was a regular face anyway.
Agree with you on Couch. I remember her early interviews with the Fury’s. Got a very young Shane on camera, Fury was interviewed riding around in a Pony and Trap. Jane was doing a decent enough job. She used to post on here, too.
Tinder is shite now but even at its peak it was only worth having if you lived in a city. Pointless in places where everybody knows each other, or knows someone that knows you.
Re: Umar IFL Umar
Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 05:22
by banjo
IFL is the boxing equivalent of those football channels like Goldbridge, blobby Robby the Arsenal fan and the human baboon experiment that is Stephen Howson.
Dugan found out about his sailor boy rap video where he's threatening to 'put em in the back of the trunk' and couldn't have that type of thing at IFL...
Muttley wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 06:36
Never heard of him but this is a perfect example of why I left the sport and journalism in general a while ago . No disrespect to those boxing/sports writers/journos but this is what happens when untrained 'journalists' are let loose with a camera and a dictation phone. Of course I know the profession has changed and I changed with it. But in my day we had to go to college/University and work our way up on the local papers and radio stations. We were trained properly and respected boundaries but that does not happen nowadays.
That said I trained and worked with some excellent young sports journalists over the years and am very proud of them so there are some really good young and talented people in the profession as well. I just wish boxing promoters PR companies would vet people properly
Good post.
Can't be easy as a legit journo who has invested in an education to see prats like Umar in the game. I suppose it's all about who you know in that game.
Your right it is not easy but I had my time and was lucky enough to work with some great people, so no regrets. When I started I traveled the gyms, attended regular shows all over the UK and Europe and spent as much time promoting small hall shows as I did the big tv cards. The same went for the journeymen and established pros. The other problem we have now, not only can anyone pick up a camera and attend press conferences, there are certain 'boxing writers' full of their own self importance and believe they are the name. Boxing is the greatest sport in the world bar none but unfortunately some promoters,tv companies and the world governing bodies have also steadily destroyed the sport by charging top dollar and delivering sub standard content. And don't even get me started about the youtubers embarrassing masquerading as boxers rant over.....for now
