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Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 19:07
by Cyclops
Shhhh wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:43
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 16:17
Hmm. In the undercard fight with Washington neither of them looked like they wanted to be there, and both of them just looked relieved when the fight was over. I get what you mean, but another title shot for Martin just means another loss.
But a few million bucks
Good luck to him! Even if I think he'll get ironed out before he gets anywhere near a world title, he is however a former World Champion, so his scalp carries enough kudos for him to be well overpaid to fight anybody who wants to move forward. He's certainly got at least one decent payday coming.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 19:59
by TheGman
Brilliant,Ali is the greatest,listen to Ali then listen to the dummy Wilder=worlds apart
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 20:00
by TheGman
rd350lc wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:38
kbackup408 wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 09:57
Wilder got beat but he has two things going for him
1) the right hand
2) a huge HEART
You've forgotten his 40lbs body suit with red glowing eyes and a pack of 6 foot inch nails , so I make that 4
He probably had the hammer from Alabama in his suit aswell,he said he was bringing it
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 01:06
by SticknMove
The weight of nonsense in his head is a bigger burden than a 45lb costume distributed over a 230lb frame on a ring walk.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 05:20
by Fray Bentos
KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 15:52
Carlos wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 05:06
It must be hard for him to accept he isn't unbeaten anymore - it must be hard for anyone to take that kind of beating whereas before - he was an unbeatable badass - I wouldn't know what that was like because I have never had an undefeated record in my life - even from the day I was born
Is that when the nurses gathered around, and gazed in wide wonder at the joy they had found?
Until the head nurse spoke up, and said " Leave this one alone"
Because she could tell right away, you were bad to the bone?
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 06:39
by Foggy
I think Wilder watching Fury get up in the 12th round of their 1st fight has mentally Effected him. Knowing everyone else had succumbed to his power (albeit stiverne 1) must av been hard for him to handle.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 06:56
by Goz
I can't stand Wilder and I was embarrassed for him watching that.
Fury has exposed him and whilst he will clearly always have a chance with that right hand, I would pick Whyte, Joshua, Parker et al to take him apart as well now.
He's not learning any new tricks at 34 years old and has barely won a (completed) round of boxing in years.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 11:50
by DrDuke
Goz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 06:56
I can't stand Wilder and I was embarrassed for him watching that.
Fury has exposed him and whilst he will clearly always have a chance with that right hand, I would pick Whyte, Joshua, Parker et al to take him apart as well now.
He's not learning any new tricks at 34 years old and has barely won a (completed) round of boxing in years.
Yeah, Wilder isn't likely to improve. Yet there's only one Tyson Fury, I doubt, that Whyte is able to repeat the success of The Gypsy King. Joshua has more chances of handling Wilder, his anthropometrics can finally be an advantage in this case.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 13:42
by kbackup408
rd350lc wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:38
kbackup408 wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 09:57
Wilder got beat but he has two things going for him
1) the right hand
2) a huge HEART
You've forgotten his 40lbs body suit with red glowing eyes and a pack of 6 foot inch nails , so I make that 4
That might be the worst/best excuse I have heard
- a puncher can always come up with excuses
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 14:58
by Goz
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 11:50
Goz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 06:56
I can't stand Wilder and I was embarrassed for him watching that.
Fury has exposed him and whilst he will clearly always have a chance with that right hand, I would pick Whyte, Joshua, Parker et al to take him apart as well now.
He's not learning any new tricks at 34 years old and has barely won a (completed) round of boxing in years.
Yeah, Wilder isn't likely to improve. Yet there's only one Tyson Fury, I doubt, that Whyte is able to repeat the success of The Gypsy King. Joshua has more chances of handling Wilder, his anthropometrics can finally be an advantage in this case.
Dunno though, is Whyte that much worse a boxer that say Ortiz? Packing a bit more weight I still think the only chance Wilder would have of beating him as landing a big shot, otherwise he's likely losing round after round. Perhaps not as big a beatdown as Fury put on him (check my WWE terminology) but enough - and counter for the strong likeliness that Wilder will NOT be the same after this.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 17:03
by DrDuke
Goz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 14:58
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 11:50
Yeah, Wilder isn't likely to improve. Yet there's only one Tyson Fury, I doubt, that Whyte is able to repeat the success of The Gypsy King. Joshua has more chances of handling Wilder, his anthropometrics can finally be an advantage in this case.
Dunno though, is Whyte that much worse a boxer that say Ortiz? Packing a bit more weight I still think the only chance Wilder would have of beating him as landing a big shot, otherwise he's likely losing round after round. Perhaps not as big a beatdown as Fury put on him (check my WWE terminology) but enough - and counter for the strong likeliness that Wilder will NOT be the same after this.
I guess, Whyte would be a bit better, than Ortiz. Well, technically Ortiz seems to be more polished, but Whyte is better with the roughhouse tactics, which is likely to be more fitting against Wilder. Anyway, he can't be the same effective as Fury, there're levels between them.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 20:07
by danconnollyeire
Just rewatched the wilder Breazeale fight. Now, Breazeale is pretty rubbish, static, scared to engage and a sitting duck but still nearly fvcked wilder with a big right hand. Wilders used to these sitting ducks. Fury set the blue print. Everyone’s just gonna fvcking go for wilder now knowing if you apply enough pressure he will buckle. If wilder faced a whyte or chisora next, those guys are strong as bull, they’d get right up in his grill and just wrestle the sh1t out of him. They would’nt have before last Saturday they would now
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 20:14
by chinarich
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 20:07
Just rewatched the wilder Breazeale fight. Now, Breazeale is pretty rubbish, static, scared to engage and a sitting duck but still nearly fvcked wilder with a big right hand. Wilders used to these sitting ducks. Fury set the blue print. Everyone’s just gonna fvcking go for wilder now knowing if you apply enough pressure he will buckle. If wilder faced a whyte or chisora next, those guys are strong as bull, they’d get right up in his grill and just wrestle the sh1t out of him. They would’nt have before last Saturday they would now
True. Fury has set the blueprint, I think Chisora or Whyte if disciplined enough would walk him down all night long...
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 20:46
by TheLeprechaun
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 20:07
Just rewatched the wilder Breazeale fight. Now, Breazeale is pretty rubbish, static, scared to engage and a sitting duck but still nearly fvcked wilder with a big right hand. Wilders used to these sitting ducks. Fury set the blue print. Everyone’s just gonna fvcking go for wilder now knowing if you apply enough pressure he will buckle. If wilder faced a whyte or chisora next, those guys are strong as bull, they’d get right up in his grill and just wrestle the sh1t out of him. They would’nt have before last Saturday they would now
Breazeale gets hit too much and doesn't have the chin. Kownacki would give Wilder problems as he doesn't take a backward step. I think Joshua could do him pre Ruiz but getting starched like that looks to have made him gunshy. Fury on the other had is too stubborn to respect Wilders power despite getting put down like he did in their first fight.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 21:32
by Ricky
Reminds me of the scene when Bruce Willis did a cameo on in Friends and he's talking himself up in the mirror.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 01 Mar 2020, 22:37
by Cyclops
Ricky wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 21:32
Reminds me of the scene when Bruce Willis did a cameo on in Friends and he's talking himself up in the mirror.
That's kind of an obscure analogy.
Re: Message from Wilder
Posted: 02 Mar 2020, 02:54
by KiwiRider
Give old Charlie some credit eh?
AJ beat the 'umble into him, he was very humble after the fight.
Did him the world of good.
I've never heard him say "walking the earth like a god" after the fight. In fact I remember an interview where he admitted his delusional behaviour and was apologetic.