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Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 17:38
by Impractical Poster
I read that it's possible that it will ebb and flow from country to country. We will go back and forth from self-quarantine to somewhat normal activity until a vaccine is available, which is expected 12-18 months.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 17:40
by Impractical Poster
My biggest concern is the global economic consequences. Far more potential to harm the masses than the actual virus itself.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 17:42
by polecateddy
It seems the most likely scenarios - in and out of social distancing and isolations over the next 18 months. Less likely is Trump’s claim it’s likely to recede dramatically with hot weather. It’s ramping up in Australia as we speak. And it’s never less than warm there. Autumn day in Sydney today, with a high of 22 degrees c.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 17:43
by Impractical Poster
God Bless this woman!
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 18:59
by Joel2
I’m going july for uk shoes and hopefully we get the years schedule crammed into 6 months - how good would that be after 3 months of no live sport
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:13
by BoxFrancis
Joel2 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 18:59
I’m going july for uk shoes and hopefully we get the years schedule crammed into 6 months - how good would that be after 3 months of no live sport
Not a chance, January at the earliest
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:22
by tiny_acres
BoxFrancis wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 19:13
Joel2 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 18:59
I’m going july for uk shoes and hopefully we get the years schedule crammed into 6 months - how good would that be after 3 months of no live sport
Not a chance, January at the earliest
X2
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:34
by squiggy
diddy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 14:13
squiggy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 13:40
I'm sure the Italians would be glad to learn that all they've really actually needed was ONE doctor at hand. Here they thought they needed a whole bunch of them!
Because a controlled environment where 2 primely conditioned young athletes with no spectators is the same thing as a bunch of 70 yrs old with pre-existing conditions in the oldest country in the world dying? Italy has gotten overrun because the hospitals weren’t and still aren’t prepared to give the care needed to everyone who needs it. That’s why so many have died. Not enough ventilators. They’ve had to deny care to many. They’re getting more vents now. But it’s not happening overnight.
Oh, events! The boxing events don't require a slew of doctors on hand. I understand now what you were saying.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 05:57
by Enlightened-One
squiggy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 19:34
diddy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 14:13
Because a controlled environment where 2 primely conditioned young athletes with no spectators is the same thing as a bunch of 70 yrs old with pre-existing conditions in the oldest country in the world dying? Italy has gotten overrun because the hospitals weren’t and still aren’t prepared to give the care needed to everyone who needs it. That’s why so many have died. Not enough ventilators. They’ve had to deny care to many. They’re getting more vents now. But it’s not happening overnight.
Oh, events!
The boxing events don't require a slew of doctors on hand. I understand now what you were saying.
Unless something goes wrong (as per Abdusalamov, McClellan, Watson etc.)!!!
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 09:48
by Loki
I’m hoping it flames out like H1N1 in the summer. Not sure, but it’s pretty apparent that it does spread as much in humid climates e.g. fewer cases below equator. Thailand and Philippines don’t have many either.
It will get worse over the next month for the western world but hopefully tougher measures will be implemented.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 09:50
by Loki
diddy wrote: ↑21 Mar 2020, 21:26
Contendeh wrote: ↑21 Mar 2020, 20:58
China is the blueprint.
Right now China is getting back to a shaky, but promising, normal.
From initial cases to now, it’s been about three months.
China *seems* to have implemented things rather successfully after the initial outbreak, so it could be the best case scenario for a country which initially had contagion issues.
In places like Italy and Spain and quite possibly the US, it will probably take longer.
China took draconian steps to lock people in their homes for weeks. They put guns on the street. That is NEVER going to fly in the states where democracy rules. Libertarians would never allow it. So this will drag on longer here than there as far as the spread is concerned. The warm weather will definitely help slow the spread as the virus won’t be able to live as long on surfaces or in the air. However when fall/winter return some of the same challenges will be back. However, testing will be widespread by then. Hospitals will be prepared. And anti-virals that work best will have long been tried and tested.
Agreed. But people NEED to listen. This isn’t an existential event but it’s who you infect rather than yourself.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 09:54
by Enlightened-One
Loki wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 09:48
I’m hoping it flames out like H1N1 in the summer. Not sure, but it’s pretty apparent that it does spread as much in humid climates e.g. fewer cases below equator. Thailand and Philippines don’t have many either.
It will get worse over the next month for the western world but hopefully tougher measures will be implemented.
I don’t know.
I had a chat with my work colleagues (who are based in Bangalore) this morning and apparently the Indian cities are currently in lockdown, even though they’re behind Western Europe (i.e. France, Spain, Italy, UK etc.) in terms of the coronavirus curve, but they tell me it’s following the same trajectory regardless.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 10:25
by Tony1244
There is no just go over there.
Even in WW2, there were safe places if you could get there. Literally no place to run and hide.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 13:36
by squiggy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 09:54
Loki wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 09:48
I’m hoping it flames out like H1N1 in the summer. Not sure, but it’s pretty apparent that it does spread as much in humid climates e.g. fewer cases below equator. Thailand and Philippines don’t have many either.
It will get worse over the next month for the western world but hopefully tougher measures will be implemented.
I don’t know.
I had a chat with my work colleagues (who are based in Bangalore) this morning and apparently the Indian cities are currently in lockdown, even though they’re behind Western Europe (i.e. France, Spain, Italy, UK etc.) in terms of the coronavirus curve, but they tell me it’s following the same trajectory regardless.
There has been, I've heard, very little testing with which to produce an accurate count in India.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 13:50
by Enlightened-One
The Covid-19 outbreak is far from dying down, head of the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned, urging nations to act while it still was possible to "change the trajectory" of the pandemic.
The disease spread is "accelerating," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Monday, citing the expanding figures of the coronavirus cases.
"It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach the first 100,000 cases, 11 days for the second 100,000 cases and just four days for the third 100,000 cases," he said.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 14:20
by polecateddy
The counts are very inaccurate. Times by ten or twenty.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 14:54
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 05:57
squiggy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 19:34
Oh, events!
The boxing events don't require a slew of doctors on hand. I understand now what you were saying.
Unless something goes wrong (as per Abdusalamov, McClellan, Watson etc.)!!!
Having more than one doc wouldn't have made a diff in any of those tragic events.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 15:04
by polecateddy
Err, it’s really not happening you donut!
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 20:02
by Boxing Prospect
Japan expects boxing back on May 2nd properly, but there WILL be 2 shows in April
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 20:23
by Enlightened-One
oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 14:54
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 05:57
Unless something goes wrong (as per Abdusalamov, McClellan, Watson etc.)!!!
Having more than one doc wouldn't have made a diff in any of those tragic events.
Magomed Abdusalamov and Michael Watson both successfully filed lawsuits, receiving millions of dollars’ worth of compensation, about their inadequate post-fight aftercare.
They wouldn't have been successful if your claim was true, but I guess your opinion takes precedence over any official court rulings that occurred in the real world.
Professionally trained medical personnel, such as ambulancemen, nurses & doctors, won’t be taken away from hospitals dealing with the coronavirus, in order to attend boxing events that are being staged purely for entertainment purposes.
It’s actually outrageously moronic and ignorant to pretend that this would even be given any serious thought by the various sporting and governing bodies.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 08:20
by Thomastearns
Pointless debate as to when it's going to restart.
We simply cannot know. All we can do is to pray that this thing doesn't escalate or mutate.
There's already disturbing reports about another virus emerging in China...
Whole world in lockdown?
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 08:22
by Enlightened-One
Thomastearns wrote: ↑24 Mar 2020, 08:20
Pointless debate as to when it's going to restart.
We simply cannot know. All we can do is to pray that this thing doesn't escalate or mutate.
There's already disturbing reports about another virus emerging in China...
Yeah, I absolutely agree. It seems that many are deluding themselves into believing sporting events will be staged regardless the health risks.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 08:48
by Thomastearns
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Mar 2020, 08:22
Thomastearns wrote: ↑24 Mar 2020, 08:20
Pointless debate as to when it's going to restart.
We simply cannot know. All we can do is to pray that this thing doesn't escalate or mutate.
There's already disturbing reports about another virus emerging in China...
Yeah, I absolutely agree. It seems that many are deluding themselves into believing sporting events will be staged regardless the health risks.
As much as I love boxing and the big matchups, right now I think I'd settle for September or maybe even December.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 17:13
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 20:23
oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 14:54
Having more than one doc wouldn't have made a diff in any of those tragic events.
Magomed Abdusalamov and Michael Watson both successfully filed lawsuits, receiving millions of dollars’ worth of compensation, about their inadequate post-fight aftercare.
They wouldn't have been successful if your claim was true, but I guess your opinion takes precedence over any official court rulings that occurred in the real world.
Professionally trained medical personnel, such as ambulancemen, nurses & doctors, won’t be taken away from hospitals dealing with the coronavirus, in order to attend boxing events that are being staged purely for entertainment purposes.
It’s actually outrageously moronic and ignorant to pretend that this would even be given any serious thought by the various sporting and governing bodies.
Mago's lawsuit wasn't over the number of docs there. it was the poor/negligent care he received, you ignorant c
unt. Good medical care isn't based on quantity.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 25 Mar 2020, 07:29
by Enlightened-One
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Mar 2020, 17:13
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2020, 20:23
Magomed Abdusalamov and Michael Watson both successfully filed lawsuits, receiving millions of dollars’ worth of compensation, about their inadequate post-fight aftercare.
They wouldn't have been successful if your claim was true, but I guess your opinion takes precedence over any official court rulings that occurred in the real world.
Professionally trained medical personnel, such as ambulancemen, nurses & doctors, won’t be taken away from hospitals dealing with the coronavirus, in order to attend boxing events that are being staged purely for entertainment purposes.
It’s actually outrageously moronic and ignorant to pretend that this would even be given any serious thought by the various sporting and governing bodies.
Mago's lawsuit wasn't over the number of docs there. it was the poor/negligent care he received, you ignorant c
unt. Good medical care isn't based on quantity.
I've read the lawsuit. You've oversimplified it in order to strengthen your argument for debating purposes rather than reflect the real-world situation. I noticed you were silent on the Michael Watson situation also.
My words are accurate! Read them again!
You're actually endorsing the obscenely moronic notion to withdraw professionally trained medical personnel, such as ambulancemen, nurses & doctors, dealing with the coronavirus within struggling/overwhelmed hospitals, in order to attend boxing events that are being staged purely for entertainment/fiscal purposes.
Good for you kid! Everyone should applaud you for your intellect and selfless generosity!
