Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 18:01
The question is, did Sonny get a great win? Is Patty a great win?
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Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 18:09
Yes.
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 18:09
Vitali must have beaten more than 6 top 10 fighters. He probably beat lots of them. The problem is, none of them were any good. Chisora as a career best win is shocking. Chisora isn't even David Haye's best win.Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 17:47 Vitali by my reckoning beat at least 6 guys who were top 10 at the time
That's a pathetic number by the standards of top welterweights, middleweights, etc but at heavyweight there are plenty of guys with pretty thin resumes.
Sonny Liston for example beat no more top 10 heavyweights than Vitali did.
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 18:11
Sometimes the heavyweight division is stronger than at other times. Vitali's victim list is a joke compared to Liston's. He is 0-2 against fighter's worth mentioning. Liston beat better competition and usually won easily.
OK, Margie looks like the thread has killed... go for it.
OK, Margie looks like the thread has killed... go for it.
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 18:21
Go for what homeslice 
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 04:20
That’s a really good call, best wins are guys like McCrory or Curry which I don’t rate as great wins, a ton of wins over good fighters but no great wins
Surprised you didn’t say Chavez (discounting the dodgy Taylor win) !!!
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 04:38
Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 06:18
Thought about it, but decided to avoid that argument.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 04:20That’s a really good call, best wins are guys like McCrory or Curry which I don’t rate as great wins, a ton of wins over good fighters but no great wins
Surprised you didn’t say Chavez (discounting the dodgy Taylor win) !!!
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 08:57
Difficult question.
I'm going to go with Ricardo Lopez.
I'm going to go with Ricardo Lopez.
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 11:42
Casamayor and Johnston are close, but you'd have to include curry is you're using them.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 04:38 Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win
Terry norris
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 12:44
Yeah, was how I was looking at it.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 11:42Casamayor and Johnston are close, but you'd have to include curry is you're using them.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 04:38 Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win
Terry norris
I couldn’t stand Norris and have problems labelling him great but I take your point on him not having a win against even someone on his own level.
Finito was a super-obvious call I’m surprised it took so long for his name to come up
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 13:01
Screw finito. Lol
Kostya is another with a lot of good wins.
Kostya is another with a lot of good wins.
Re: Great fighters without a single Great Win
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 13:32
Casamayor, Corrales, Stevie Johnston and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (f*ck the judges, we know what we saw)Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 04:38 Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win