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TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020, 19:27 Peter Kadiru isn’t on Dubois’ level, but at a similar age of 22, he has a lot of time and some raw talent. The right development could see him make a dent, who knows.

Peter Milas to me looks a good prospect, good feet, nice quick hands with his combinations, may not have the power to give him the edge.

If you put Martin Bakole up against Ajagba right now, Bakole would blow his head off. Not losing hope for Ajagba, but he needs to start showing more very soon indeed.

Who the fook is Martin " He is nothing" Bakole.
I'm not even sure that many members here heard his name.

Why a prospect like Ajagba needs to fight a BIG BUM that KOed by micheal Hunter. Does fighting him help Ajagba climb in the rating, I don't think so, bakale is no name .

Lol ya, Efe has no time to spend on loser like Bakole when he's taking on beasts like Raz and Iago

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:10 Lol ya, Efe has no time to spend on loser like Bakole when he's taking on beasts like Raz and Iago

Beat me to the punch.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:14

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:10 Lol ya, Efe has no time to spend on loser like Bakole when he's taking on beasts like Raz and Iago

Beat me to the punch.

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Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:14
Beat me to the punch.

oogiebe = margaret thatcher = is loves english gay lips

Is it tough being home from grade school with the quarentine?

Steel City wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 09:00 I would have Majidov right up there at the top based on ability and if he was fast tracked like crazy. But in reality he's left it far too late and it doesn't look like he's gonna be active enough, he's 2-0 and he'll be 34 in August. Looks like he's only gonna be fighting 2 or 3 times a year. Fury and Joshua aren't gonna give a shot to a dangerous not well known guy whos only had about 6 fights. He's gonna start to regress soon cause of age. He'll probably be 38 or 39 if he was to get a world title shot, it's too late.

Good point. Most prospects (especially heavies?) box infrequent no matter what age. It shouldnt be a problem boxing once a month moving up i you dont suffer cuts or injuries.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:27

Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:22

oogiebe = margaret thatcher = is loves english gay lips

Is it tough being home from grade school with the quarentine?

I'm in colombia, i opened door and three girls on my bed ...

boxtune as Efster weighs in

Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:45

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:27
Is it tough being home from grade school with the quarentine?

I'm in colombia, i opened door and three girls on my bed ...

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 19:03 boxtune as Efster weighs in

LMFAO!

Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:09

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020, 19:27 Peter Kadiru isn’t on Dubois’ level, but at a similar age of 22, he has a lot of time and some raw talent. The right development could see him make a dent, who knows.

Peter Milas to me looks a good prospect, good feet, nice quick hands with his combinations, may not have the power to give him the edge.

If you put Martin Bakole up against Ajagba right now, Bakole would blow his head off. Not losing hope for Ajagba, but he needs to start showing more very soon indeed.

Who the fook is Martin " He is nothing" Bakole.
I'm not even sure that many members here heard his name.

Why a prospect like Ajagba needs to fight a BIG BUM that KOed by micheal Hunter. Does fighting him help Ajagba climb in the rating, I don't think so, bakale is no name .

Martin Bakole is the superior African fighter, so Ajagba should want to prove himself by beating a man who has only lost to a top 10 heavyweight.

I really don't understand you boxtune even allowing for your immature and boastful personality. You seem to pick two fighters of similar standing and ability, then randomly decide to laud one of them to the skies, while dismissing the other one as rubbish.

Not only do we have the Ajagba is fantastic while Bakole is shite example, but you have absolutely no respect for Povetkin yet rave about Kubrat Pulev who has managed to maintain a top 10 ranking for the best part of a decade without having fought any of the main players, and getting crushed like a grape by the only elite fighter he ever faced.

How do you decide, do you pick names out of a hat?

candyslim wrote: ↑23 Apr 2020, 04:10 I really don't understand you boxtune even allowing for your immature and boastful personality. You seem to pick two fighters of similar standing and ability, then randomly decide to laud one of them to the skies, while dismissing the other one as rubbish.

Not only do we have the Ajagba is fantastic while Bakole is shite example, but you have absolutely no respect for Povetkin yet rave about Kubrat Pulev who has managed to maintain a top 10 ranking for the best part of a decade without having fought any of the main players, and getting crushed like a grape by the only elite fighter he ever faced.

How do you decide, do you pick names out of a hat?

I said martin bakole is no name fighter, even he is a strong fighter.

it's somehow can be a risk fight for agaba, with nothing to gain or everything to lose. If you don't understand simple english, I'm sorry i can't help you.

And for your last comment, Pulev will beat povetkin.

So when you call Bakole "A Big Bum" what you meant was that he was a strong fighter? Maybe my English does need some work because I thought the two things were very different.

Yes I know you think Pulev is wonderful and destroys Povetkin. What I was hoping to understand is what on Earth leads you to believe that? Pulev has done nothing to deserve a title shot, he hasn't fought anyone currently in the top 10 and it's only Delboy and Hughie who are even in the top 20.

Not to put too fine a point on it, his record is extremely mediocre. How TF can you spend as long as he has in the top 10 of almost everyone's rankings without ever taking on anyone who might be expected to give him a real fight? Except Klitschko of course - he gave him a real fight alright. And Pulev has the nerve to call Dillian Whyte a coward. Oh the irony.

And how does a young Asian guy with no connection to Bulgaria or the Balkans develop a man-crush on him out of all the heavyweights?

Ooohh man i can wait .... start boxing .... covid shit

i wonder if it starts where its ends .... Whyte vs Povetkin, DD vs Joyce , Aj vs Pulev , Fury vs Wilder, Hrgovic vs Forest,

so many good fights are lost or ? contiune the same matches or new cards?

i like to see DD vs Joyce , Hrgovic vs Ajagba , Yoka vs Dychko , Makhmudov vs Jalalov, Ukranian Victor V. vs Magomedrasul M.

Will you stop it - it's like going around all the jails and prisons telling all the inmates about the great bars and pubs you've been to and the great food you've enjoyed

Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:45

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:27
Is it tough being home from grade school with the quarentine?

I'm in colombia, i opened door and three girls on my bed ...

Whats that gunna cost?

Nothing. It's just a small token of appreciation for his having kindly agreed to make a detour to NYC on his way back home in order to deliver a package of powdered white rhinoceros horn to his generous host's nephew who needs his meds.

Loki wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 08:28

ewenhay wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 07:12 What do we consider a prospect in the heavyweight division though?

Under 25?
Less than a certain number of pro fights?

I think age can be misleading HW’s mature later, so I’d say fights.

Number of fights is an even worse measuring stick than age. That has everything to do with whether your management is matching you frequently with bums or infrequently with tough fights. You could have a 30-year-old who's competed in the Olympics 4 times and won 3 gold medal who is 4-0 as a pro and already holding a world championship, and you can have a 21-year-old Mexican fighter who is 40-0, turned pro when he was 15, never fought a top 100 opponent, and isn't currently ranked in his division's top 50. While I'm at it, number of fights is a worse measuring stick than years pro as well. Not to mention that some of these 30-year-olds with 10 pro fights have fought over 200 times including their amateur careers.

30-year-old Makhmudov has fewer fights than 25-year-old Vladyslav Sirenko. So does that mean we have every reason to think that Sirenko's prime is going to be from ages 29 to 35, and Makhmudov's prime is going to be from ages 35 to 41? Most likely, what it really means is that Makhmudov is already in his prime and that Sirenko is still 5 years away from being as prime as Makhmudov is.

Age remains the least misleading statistic available.

Not yet a heavyweight, but Tristan Kalkreuth (18 y/o) will eventually be there. This kid has terrific skills and a classic left hook. Watch him in the coming years.

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2020, 16:01 Not yet a heavyweight, but Tristan Kalkreuth (18 y/o) will eventually be there. This kid has terrific skills and a classic left hook. Watch him in the coming years.

18 and basicaly a light heavyweight.... Thats an early pick for a heavyweight prospect. But yea, 6'4 he will obviously fill in but still has another 25 pounds to put on till he is a full size cruiser. and Then probly another 10 till he is a real Heavy... But young with time on his hands, and enough skill to throw a left hook. give it another 5 or 6 years and he could be a handfull at heavy....
That said if they get him on the Big baby supplement cycle he might be 250lb by the end of lockdown.... Hear the pathology labs are pretty stretched.....

gregregegg wrote: ↑25 Apr 2020, 20:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2020, 16:01 Not yet a heavyweight, but Tristan Kalkreuth (18 y/o) will eventually be there. This kid has terrific skills and a classic left hook. Watch him in the coming years.

18 and basicaly a light heavyweight.... Thats an early pick for a heavyweight prospect. But yea, 6'4 he will obviously fill in but still has another 25 pounds to put on till he is a full size cruiser. and Then probly another 10 till he is a real Heavy... But young with time on his hands, and enough skill to throw a left hook. give it another 5 or 6 years and he could be a handfull at heavy....
That said if they get him on the Big baby supplement cycle he might be 250lb by the end of lockdown.... Hear the pathology labs are pretty stretched.....

Let's hope not on the latter!

How about this guy?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/763287

Loki wrote: ↑26 Apr 2020, 11:28 How about this guy?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/763287

It's impossible to say of course, but I looked up his opponents and they have all been knocked out a lot.

Loki wrote: ↑26 Apr 2020, 11:28 How about this guy?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/763287

I mentioned him on both page 1 and page 2 of this thread. He is the current Canadian champion and one huge unit. Canucks refer to him as "Monster Mel". He has a very upright style, is capable of putting punches together, but tends to come forward throwing single shots with bad intentions. He is heavy handed but I don't see him as being a concussive puncher as he moves up the levels.

His left is used mainly as a range finder although he has a decent jab if he troubles to use it. While he tends to plod forward, systematically taking most of what comes back at him on his arms, he is mobile enough to drop back smartly out of range when the need arises.

The quality of his opposition has been largely unimpressive. His best opponent was former champion Dillon Carman who is one of those fighters that is vulnerable but always dangerous - just ask Mel's fellow Canadian prospect Simon Kean, who Carman knocked out in a big upset. Although Mel stopped him in two to win the title, the fight was remarkable for the rare occurrence of a double-knockdown as they both landed simultaneously with powerful shots.

It has to be said that Carman looked by far the less affected fighter on rising to his feet but the cynic in me suspects that's probably because Dillon is no stranger to being dumped on his arse, wheras it was a new experience for Miljas and something of a shock. Carman can really dig so I don't think this is indicative of Miljas being chinny but it does suggest he is not as indestructible as his appearance might lead one to expect.

I hasten to add that I haven't seen a great deal of him but these are my impressions.