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Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 13:15
by knockout
Very good post by The Goods!
I agree the tide has turned, the Goods covered it all in his post and a83 comment about social media content is also true. Most of the time AJ Inc is trying to sell a product (not himself) on Instagram, whereas Tyson’s content is largely for the fans.
That’s my neutral opinion .
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 13:27
by Boxerbeetle
Nah, Joshua is still way way bigger amongst casuals. He has about 8 million more followers on Insta and about 2 million more followers on Twitter as well.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 13:30
by Fightnight Scores
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:27
Nah, Joshua is still way way bigger amongst casuals. He has about 8 million more followers on Insta and about 2 million more followers on Twitter as well.
Can we factor in how many of those are females having a perv please?
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 14:17
by milpool
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:30
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:27
Nah, Joshua is still way way bigger amongst casuals. He has about 8 million more followers on Insta and about 2 million more followers on Twitter as well.
Can we factor in how many of those are females having a perv please?
My lass follows Joshua on Insta...she isn’t a boxing fan.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 14:51
by Ruthless-RKO
milpool wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 14:17
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:30
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:27
Nah, Joshua is still way way bigger amongst casuals. He has about 8 million more followers on Insta and about 2 million more followers on Twitter as well.
Can we factor in how many of those are females having a perv please?
My lass follows Joshua on Insta...she isn’t a boxing fan.
I know plenty of women who ‘become boxing fans’ just when he fights..
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 15:19
by Ricky
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Aug 2020, 17:03
Dubois vs Whyte
Yarde vs Buatsi
Joyce vs Chis
Williams vs Andrade
Edwards vs Yafai
Gorman vs Allen
Sheeraz vs Cheeseman
Sharp vs Barrett
Jenkins vs Benn (lol didnt fwank reject that already)
What do yall reckon the overall tally is if all these fought?
Dubois
Buatsi
Joyce
Andrade
Yafai
Gorman
Sheeraz
Barrett
Benn
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 15:30
by Boxerbeetle
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 14:51
milpool wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 14:17
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 13:30
Can we factor in how many of those are females having a perv please?
My lass follows Joshua on Insta...she isn’t a boxing fan.
I know plenty of women who ‘become boxing fans’ just when he fights..
Exactly. Joshua has proper mainstream and commercial appeal for many different reasons, and all the relevant metrics confirm it. The idea that Fury is now more popular is bizarre tbh.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 15:56
by a93
It depends. If you went round the streets and asked 100 random people you’d get more people voting for AJ. Go around any boxing event (that neither were fighting at) and you’d probably get Fury.
Fair play to Hearn. I don’t like the guy one bit but he knew which market to target. It suddenly became fashionable for non-boxing fans to go along to the boxing, have a couple of beers and sing Sweet Caroline to watch the well-marketed, good looking, role model Olympian. People fell for it and it coincided with Fury’s demise luckily for him.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 16:36
by Ruthless-RKO
a93 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 15:56
It depends. If you went round the streets and asked 100 random people you’d get more people voting for AJ. Go around any boxing event (that neither were fighting at) and you’d probably get Fury.
Fair play to Hearn. I don’t like the guy one bit but he knew which market to target. It suddenly became fashionable for non-boxing fans to go along to the boxing, have a couple of beers and sing Sweet Caroline to watch the well-marketed, good looking, role model Olympian. People fell for it and it coincided with Fury’s demise luckily for him.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 17:26
by Frostieballs
There is a big difference between who is more present in the nation’s consciousness and who will be best supported in the arena.
AJ has a bigger social media following, but that does consist of a massive amount of true casuals.
Fury’s fans are far more die-hard and I wouldn’t be surprised if they really mobilse come fight night (please let it happen) and dominate the venue.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 18:23
by margaret thatcher
AJ 's the one who has done the record crowds of 80-90k, even in the USA he did 20k and packed msg. He also set a UK ppv record in his last fight ffs! See, those are facts showing that losing didn't cripple him, it's not just dudes speculating. The guy lost and then did bigger numbers than ever.
As said, on all the metrics it's AJ, a rally speech and some beach training don't change it, a lot of that is just wishfulness
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 18:35
by Frostieballs
Well, time will tell but I think things have shifted somewhat in the past 12 months. Let’s drag this post up if the fight happens!
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 18:40
by margaret thatcher
I mean AJ's last fight was a PPV record, I just don't buy this narrative of a big dropping stock for him and some massive rise and surpassing from Fury. I am pretty confident we will continue to see AJ ahead in all the indicators, as we see now, but ya, we can evaluate a year from now to be more sure
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 18:52
by Frostieballs
I don’t think we have a comparable event. When is the last time Fury fought in the UK on a PPV event that was the good side of midnight?
I also think the live audience will consist of more actual boxing fans than the typical AJ fight... and I believe they favour Fury more now.
That said, I have completely given up any confidence I have in predicting the behaviour of the public!!!!
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 07:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 07:55
by Onetimeonly
They could talk on the phone.
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 08:06
by Counter-puncher
surprised Eddie didn't keep schtum and passionately french-kiss Warren to open the meeting
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 08:12
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 07:55
They could talk on the phone.
excuses..
Zoom meeting???
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 08:20
by jameswilson
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 08:06
surprised Eddie didn't keep schtum and passionately french-kiss Warren to open the meeting
Eddie on skype from his home - ‘don’t worry frank I’ll sort eh bill you have what you want.’
Frank at the restaurant - ‘ah very kind I’ll just have a Caesar salad please waiter’
*hands Waiter a piece of paper asking for the lobster, bollinger and fillet steak*
Re: Queensberry vs Matchroom
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 08:24
by Onetimeonly
jameswilson wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 08:20
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 08:06
surprised Eddie didn't keep schtum and passionately french-kiss Warren to open the meeting
Eddie on skype from his home - ‘don’t worry frank I’ll sort eh bill you have what you want.’
Frank at the restaurant - ‘ah very kind I’ll just have a Caesar salad please waiter’
*hands Waiter a piece of paper asking for the lobster, bollinger and fillet steak*
Eddie says "put it on my dazn card"
