No
He lost first Castillo fight definitely.
Last time i watched De la Hoya fight was years ago but i thought Mayweather won that one.
First Maidana fight was Floyds most entertaining fight, i had it 115-113 for Mayweather. 114-114 can be also good but i dont think Maidana won that. Mayweather handled that fight like a man.
He won against Manny Pacquiao in a close fight too. Close but clear. Still, i think no version of Mayweather could handle 2008 - 2011 version of Manny.
Manny ran away because Floyd asked for a test, and remember that Floyd accepted his ludicrous £10 million dollar per pound weight clause despite never failing to make 147! Manny, never mastered Marquez in 4 fights much less the fundamentally far better floyd!
And yet Floyd had his hands full with the fundamentally awful Maidana. Styles make fights. Marquez was more dangerous for Manny with his punch power. The Manny of 08-12 would have done much better against Floyd, and Floyd was clearly happy to put the fight off for years on end.
Manny to floyd, will you accept thwe 10 million dollar weight penalty clause dspite never failing to make 147? Yes Sir! Will you accept a Drug test? No sir, because your not the Commision but yrs later he demanded his Opponents to take that very same test after he launched his ass like rocketman into a KO pUNCH.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 09:41
by thesnowman22
I had him beating Castillo close.
I thought Maidana 1 was a draw.
I think you could justify Maidana 2 as a draw, though that has never been the narritive.
Floyd just took long stretches of rounds off, yet judges seemed to ignore it.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 09:52
by gilgamesh
thesnowman22 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 09:41
I had him beating Castillo close.
I thought Maidana 1 was a draw.
I think you could justify Maidana 2 as a draw, though that has never been the narritive.
Floyd just took long stretches of rounds off, yet judges seemed to ignore it.
Weird take on Floyd vs Maidana 2. I had Floyd winning that one by a very wide margin. Maidana both wasn't allowed to fight on the inside at all there, and just kinda sleepwalked through the bout. He'd made his money from the 1st fight, and was fighting this one for the check, and was ready to call it a career. That's the way it came across to me, and that's indeed what he did.
He was giving all he had to win the 1st fight. The 2nd fight, he was just wanted to get through it, and get his money.
Kenny Bayless ruined any possibility of it being competitive though by literally separating them when they were close to each other even if they weren't in a clinch. I lost a lot of respect for Bayless on that night.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 07:54
by Post 4 Post
I scored Mayweather-Maidana I to Maidana.
Mayweather got outworked. Floyd got pushed out of his comfort zone & was clocked good.
Maidana fought his fight & made Floyd work like never before.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 12:43
by Tevfik1907
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 02:42
by p4p1
Castillo 1 is the obvious one.
As mentioned above me, the moment Roger jumped in the ring Mayweather should have been DQ'd. The referee had to restrain Roger from attacking Zab. How that wasn't a DQ is beyond me. If Judah's corner had been smarter they would have stayed out of the ring and likely got the DQ.
Mayweather was going to win anyway but Cortez ruined Mayweather vs Hatton.
I thought Oscar vs Mayweather was a clear decision in favour of Floyd. I really never understood the controversy, the fight was easy to score and while not a one sided beating was a clear victor. Similar to the Manny fight but the Manny fight was closer. I had the Manny fight as a close but clear decision to Floyd, the scoring doesn't capture the closeness of the fight because a lot of the round IMO were close but clear rounds for Floyd.
I can't remember the Maiadana fight well enough, but I do remember a lot of people disagreed with the decision.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 08:11
by detamour
p4p1 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2020, 02:42
Castillo 1 is the obvious one.
As mentioned above me, the moment Roger jumped in the ring Mayweather should have been DQ'd. The referee had to restrain Roger from attacking Zab. How that wasn't a DQ is beyond me. If Judah's corner had been smarter they would have stayed out of the ring and likely got the DQ.
Mayweather was going to win anyway but Cortez ruined Mayweather vs Hatton.
I thought Oscar vs Mayweather was a clear decision in favour of Floyd. I really never understood the controversy, the fight was easy to score and while not a one sided beating was a clear victor. Similar to the Manny fight but the Manny fight was closer. I had the Manny fight as a close but clear decision to Floyd, the scoring doesn't capture the closeness of the fight because a lot of the round IMO were close but clear rounds for Floyd.
I can't remember the Maiadana fight well enough, but I do remember a lot of people disagreed with the decision.
Ali, had Jones, even Marciano, Robinson had close wins on the way up go and study the record books for reference.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?
Posted: 13 Dec 2020, 08:15
by detamour
p4p1 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2020, 02:42
Castillo 1 is the obvious one.
As mentioned above me, the moment Roger jumped in the ring Mayweather should have been DQ'd. The referee had to restrain Roger from attacking Zab. How that wasn't a DQ is beyond me. If Judah's corner had been smarter they would have stayed out of the ring and likely got the DQ.
Mayweather was going to win anyway but Cortez ruined Mayweather vs Hatton.
I thought Oscar vs Mayweather was a clear decision in favour of Floyd. I really never understood the controversy, the fight was easy to score and while not a one sided beating was a clear victor. Similar to the Manny fight but the Manny fight was closer. I had the Manny fight as a close but clear decision to Floyd, the scoring doesn't capture the closeness of the fight because a lot of the round IMO were close but clear rounds for Floyd.
I can't remember the Maiadana fight well enough, but I do remember a lot of people disagreed with the decision.
Madaina, was kicking butting , rabbit punching but forgot the rules of boxing. Clean effective punching, defense , Ring Generalship.
Re: Which fights do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. actually lost?