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Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 15:21
by jamesmcdonnell
d1makl wrote:Objective? My point was that you cannot judge everybody based on the posts of some trolls, like Bubi, Nasty and Adju. I didn't insult Brits, just becouse you support your fighters, but don't you think that Tyson with his power has a chance to be a titleholder? not less than Danny Williams. I understand that a little bit too much, but it isn't like every American saying that the Tyson is the best and you found 1 post about Rob Calloway and you made it look like everybody thinks that he is a next white hope.
And could you find me, please, in my post where I insulted anybody.
In the case of Bubi, I just showed on his example, he is totally biased against american fighters or you think that he is just expressing his opinion? Yep, I agree that there is some idiots who hates everybody with different opinion, but which country doesn't have them. And to say "Land of retards", when the land was founded by people mostly from England and don't think it is very smart. If you don't agree with politics of the country, that is OK(it doesn't mean that you are right), but don't bring your hateress to the boxing forum.
And about my grammar, that was a cheap shot
Land of retards was referring to the current scene. read the initial post.....retard. :TU:

Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 16:30
by Blue
The Current Scene is really an "international" scene and has good posters too. :TU:

No matter where U go or what forum U access nut huggers blatantly omit facts & reality
to boost the image of their favorite fighters and overstate weaknesses of fighters they dislike.
Fan bias in boxing is no different than Political bias or even “jingoism”. :-?


We don't want to fight, but by Jingo, if we do,
We've got the ships, we've got the men,
We've got the money, too!

When the closed mind runs out of ideas, he will slag U, your country, or yer mama.Image
The Mancunian’s troll post on the Current Scene didn’t help. :roll:

Kostya's agreed to take on The Hitman...is he mad ?
http://207.44.250.6/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24139&start=0

Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 16:49
by jamesmcdonnell
forgive him, he's from manchester. he probably hasn't even scene Zoo fight.

Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 18:11
by Loftgroov
jesus wept - I miss the forum for a few days and when i come back it's like playschool....

:roll: :lol:

Posted: 22 Jan 2005, 06:11
by ILikeBeer
I dunno, Danny Williams world class performance in December really didnt reflect that badly on Tyson I dont think.
You are forgetting. Tyson hurt his leg. :lol:

Posted: 24 Jan 2005, 06:46
by BubiScholz
d1makl wrote:Objective? My point was that you cannot judge everybody based on the posts of some trolls, like Bubi, Nasty and Adju. I didn't insult Brits, just becouse you support your fighters, but don't you think that Tyson with his power has a chance to be a titleholder? not less than Danny Williams. I understand that a little bit too much, but it isn't like every American saying that the Tyson is the best and you found 1 post about Rob Calloway and you made it look like everybody thinks that he is a next white hope.
And could you find me, please, in my post where I insulted anybody.
In the case of Bubi, I just showed on his example, he is totally biased against american fighters or you think that he is just expressing his opinion? Yep, I agree that there is some idiots who hates everybody with different opinion, but which country doesn't have them. And to say "Land of retards", when the land was founded by people mostly from England and don't think it is very smart. If you don't agree with politics of the country, that is OK(it doesn't mean that you are right), but don't bring your hateress to the boxing forum.
And about my grammar, that was a cheap shot
hey, i am not against american fighters. if you would know what i posted is that i just say that the best european boxers in heavy nowadays are as good or better than the actual american fighters. that´s all and not irealistic when you follow the worldwide heavy scene like i do. so stop caling me whatever. i never called you something before.

Posted: 24 Jan 2005, 07:07
by jamesmcdonnell
There is definetly a shift away from America and towards Eastern Europe in the heavyweight division, partly because of the decline of the interest of huge African-American athletic talent in boxing, and focusing more on NBA and NFL. The socially disadvataged have other ways of making money which are less dangerous and more highly paid that fighting. Except for the top 1%, few boxers ever make money comparable to that earnt by hundreds of NFL and NBA players, mainly because the sports are organised and equitable, so there is more money to go around.

Whilst I do not agree that Sam and Krasniqi are yet on a par, the fact that Vitali is the #1, his brother is still a contender and it's now some time since America had the main man in the division means you would have to say that America's dominance is slipping away.

Posted: 24 Jan 2005, 08:10
by BubiScholz
jamesmcdonnell wrote:There is definetly a shift away from America and towards Eastern Europe in the heavyweight division, partly because of the decline of the interest of huge African-American athletic talent in boxing, and focusing more on NBA and NFL. The socially disadvataged have other ways of making money which are less dangerous and more highly paid that fighting. Except for the top 1%, few boxers ever make money comparable to that earnt by hundreds of NFL and NBA players, mainly because the sports are organised and equitable, so there is more money to go around.

Whilst I do not agree that Sam and Krasniqi are yet on a par, the fact that Vitali is the #1, his brother is still a contender and it's now some time since America had the main man in the division means you would have to say that America's dominance is slipping away.

good post, mate. :TU:

Sam and Krasniqi need another good fight to fight for the title but anyway if you see that Meehan got a title fight without doing anything....