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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 23:23

emallini wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 23:17 Internet boxing bums are dumb as dust

i still love ya man

emallini wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 23:57

lazboy wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 23:24

emallini wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 23:17 Internet boxing bums are dumb as dust

Hi there, what do you mean by that comment. Please note that we are trying to make this boxing forum a safe and inclusive place. Your comments make me feel unsafe.

I will explain in 16 hours

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:08 can you post those my bruh, would like to see those too

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 12:55 he's like one of these instagirls who arch their back, stick their booty out, take 100 shots from the best angle possible, edit it up a bit, then post it acting like they got some amazing ass or something

nah bae, stand back and take that photo from head on. better yet, if you claiming to be slim now too, step on da scale

emallini wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 08:05 Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 09:27

emallini wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 08:05 Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 16:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 09:27

emallini wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 08:05 Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 20:37

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 16:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 09:27
I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight.

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 08:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 20:37

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 16:09
you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 05:30

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 08:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 20:37
Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.

We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

gregregegg wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 08:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 05:30

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 08:43
when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.

We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

What you bench tho?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 09:32 So you got a strong booty then

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 05:30

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 08:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 20:37
Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.
its not a lot of muscle mass per say, boxers dont rely on mass muscle, as do guys that lift weights, so athletes that do cardio, will lose fat, but not muscle, I guess we can go on all day about this, boxers who use weights get an advantage, because it builds strengh, but not over useage of weight, i spent a lot of time with kerry over 25 years, and see what results are, i have filmed pro bodybuilders dvds, and see how they train,
We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 12:58its not a lot of muscle mass per say, boxers dont rely on mass muscle, as do guys that lift weights, so athletes that do cardio, will lose fat, but not muscle, I guess we can go on all day about this, boxers who use weights get an advantage, because it builds strengh, but not over useage of weight, i spent a lot of time with kerry over 25 years, and see what results are, i have filmed pro bodybuilders dvds, and see how they train,

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 16:20 he has had a lot of time to lose weight, over a year, so i would assume he has done it sensibly, and therefore, not so much loss of muscle strengh,

ERIC GUY wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 13:47 i heard he lost 40lbs