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If you want to see an ultimate juiced up fight watch DLH Mosely 1. Fkn amazing stuff but very unnatural.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 17:03

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 16:04

DrDuke wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 15:50 I'm sure, if he had no legal issues, there wouldn't be this failed test. All top athletes are roided up. The politics of the sports decides who gonna fail tests.

Some truth in that - wonder if he's paid VADA? When you see how much money fighters like e.g. Joshua pay them, it makes you scratch your head about why VADA would every fail someone like that?

Ouch! That is a strong claim to make. Do we know for sure AJ is on something? He's certainly looks more natural these days.

As for Kovalev it's all too easy to assume he knows he's shot. Once he barely made it past the novice Anthony 'lions in the house' Yarde, he must have known the writing was on the wall.

Doesn't mean he's guilty but the temptation ($$$$) might have been there.

Of course, testing is never fair. Any eye test can see Canelo is more PED than human nowadays.

I didn't say Joshua was/is on anything. I said he pays a lot of money to VADA. All fighters signed up to VADA pay them which makes me question how committed to catching cheats they are.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 02:14All fighters signed up to VADA pay them which makes me question how committed to catching cheats they are.

Are you suggesting that VADA corruptly ignores adverse test results, by pretending they’re clean, for the fighters that pay them the most money?

And if so, have you forgotten about several big names that VADA announced had tested positive for consuming PED’s in boxing and also MMA?

I’m not sure if I understand the justification for your claims.

Perhaps you should cite some examples of big-name fighters you believe to be drug cheats that VADA have never tested positive for consuming PED’s?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 05:12

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 02:14All fighters signed up to VADA pay them which makes me question how committed to catching cheats they are.

Are you suggesting that VADA corruptly ignores adverse test results, by pretending they’re clean, for the fighters that pay them the most money?

And if so, have you forgotten about several big names that VADA announced had tested positive for consuming PED’s in boxing and also MMA?

I’m not sure if I understand the justification for your claims.

Perhaps you should cite some examples of big-name fighters you believe to be drug cheats that VADA have never tested positive for consuming PED’s?

I don't need to cite examples, I know full well that there are boxers at all levels of the sport who have or do use(d) PEDS and not been caught. It's not my job to name and shame them.

My issue with VADA is that they are paid by the very people they are testing. No need to say more than that.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 06:26

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 05:12

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 02:14All fighters signed up to VADA pay them which makes me question how committed to catching cheats they are.

Are you suggesting that VADA corruptly ignores adverse test results, by pretending they’re clean, for the fighters that pay them the most money?

And if so, have you forgotten about several big names that VADA announced had tested positive for consuming PED’s in boxing and also MMA?

I’m not sure if I understand the justification for your claims.

Perhaps you should cite some examples of big-name fighters you believe to be drug cheats that VADA have never tested positive for consuming PED’s?

I don't need to cite examples, I know full well that there are boxers at all levels of the sport who have or do use(d) PEDS and not been caught. It's not my job to name and shame them.

My issue with VADA is that they are paid by the very people they are testing. No need to say more than that.

I assume you're a fan of conspiracy theories?

VADA testing is paid for by the WBC, the WBA and also the athletic commissions.

The fighters don't pay VADA.

At least you've learned something new, even if the newly-acquired knowledge doesn't persuade you to change your mind.

No need to say more than that.

VADA is paid for by fighters or promoters on a fight by fight basis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/4916 ... A320%2C000.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 08:38 VADA is paid for by fighters or promoters on a fight by fight basis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/4916 ... A320%2C000.

The promoters usually pay for drug testing, with most fighters indirectly funding these costs (as expenses deducted from their purses).

For officially-sanctioned WBA or WBC bouts, the testing is actually funded by their boxing programs.

Of course, the governing bodies receive sanctioning fees deducted from the fighters’ purses and also monies received from fines imposed on those that failed PED tests, which more than compensates for these costs.

In the US and UK, the testing is usually mandated by the sports’ governing bodies or the athletic commissions, which means that most high-profile fighters cannot avoid them.

That being said, THE COST OF VADA TESTING IS FIXED with a battery of ten tests costing roughly $20K, REGARDLESS THE PURSE SIZE OF THE FIGHTER BEING TESTED.

And sometimes the fighters appearing on undercards (i.e. journeymen or prospects) aren’t earning enough to fund the drug testing expenses, which means the promoters pay these costs in full (for bouts that aren’t sanctioning by the WBC/WBA).

Therefore, what sort of financial justification do you have for your conspiracy theory about VADA being reluctant to catch big-name drug cheats?

Vada is a service. They dont do actual collections as far as i know - that is sub contracted out

They caught canelo, by far the biggest name in the sport. Some fighters have specifically avoided vada.

The notion they are underhanded is absurd

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 09:17 Vada is a service. They dont do actual collections as far as i know - that is sub contracted out

They caught canelo, by far the biggest name in the sport. Some fighters have specifically avoided vada.

The notion they are underhanded is absurd

Agreed.

Manny Pacquiao avoided a complete set of VADA testing for the Keith Thurman and Timothy Bradley bouts.

And as you already stated, VADA claimed Canelo had failed a test.

The costs for the administration of the drug testing is fixed in nature, so I don’t see any reason for VADA to be influenced by the purse size of the fighters being tested.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 08:38 VADA is paid for by fighters or promoters on a fight by fight basis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/4916 ... A320%2C000.

Agree. We have a term in Australia called apprehended bias.

The fans have have been talking about inadequate testing in boxing for years and years without anything significant ever being done.

Yes, Canelo got caught, but if you remember the near grovelling apology he received from the WBC and the embarrassed looking askance he received across the board from the entire boxing establishment. See also his non-existent punishment.

If they had been serious he would have received a 2 year ban at the minimum and a full investigation into his previous tests (providing they'd kept the samples).

Boxing has been rife with suspicion as to who is and who isn't on PEDs for decades. No one believes that Sergey Kovalev is the only current big name offender.

There's some interesting opinions on Kovalev and the so-called juicers here from Dwyer. Apparently some PED users have been someway ahead of the testers since at least the Los Angeles Olympics of 1984!

Officially off.. shame..

I don’t care who’s boxing. I need boxing..

I need boxing every other week.. at least. Just something. The amount of fights being cancelled right now..

Golden Boy statement concerning Sergey Kovalev's positive PED test: The Sergey Kovalev vs. Bektemir Melikuziev boxing event scheduled for Jan. 30th has been cancelled following a positive test for a banned substance on behalf of Sergey Kovalev through the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association. Upon learning of Kovalev’s adverse finding, the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) determined that they must cancel the event. While we are crushed for “The Bully” (Melikuziev), we know that he will nevertheless have a tremendous year in 2021. We look forward to our next scheduled boxing event on Feb. 13th.

When the news of the test result broke, Melikuziev, a 2016 Olympic silver medal winner said he would fight the enhanced Kovalev anyway: "I don't like talking, but I said it last night - it makes no difference to me, just put him in the ring, let us fight regardless."

Another failed drug test.
It's not a surprise anymore is it.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 16:12 Officially off.. shame..

I don’t care who’s boxing. I need boxing..

I need boxing every other week.. at least. Just something. The amount of fights being cancelled right now..

I have to agree with you, since I’m suffering from from the same withdrawal symptoms.

I haven't watched any Boxing since Teo vs Loma as I said I wouldn't ,but I have added to my MMA DVD collection. I almost have all of Pride FC now except for just a few, and I completed my collection of the early UFC's. The bareknuckle days with far less rules. It's amazing to see the evolution of the sport from those days.

There was a pretty damn amazing UFC Main Event today on ABC. One of the worst beatings I've ever seen somebody stand up to. Not so much a great fight as it was a great performance, and horrendous beating.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 01:28 I haven't watched any Boxing since Teo vs Loma as I said I wouldn't ,but I have added to my MMA DVD collection. I almost have all of Pride FC now except for just a few, and I completed my collection of the early UFC's. The bareknuckle days with far less rules. It's amazing to see the evolution of the sport from those days.

There was a pretty damn amazing UFC Main Event today on ABC. One of the worst beatings I've ever seen somebody stand up to. Not so much a great fight as it was a great performance, and horrendous beating.

Holloway was crazy.. talking to Dana and the commentary team whilst boxing and throwing no look punches.

He’s crazy. Only 29 years old.

McGirt Was Unaware of Kovalev's Doping Test, Felt Camp Was Going Well

If Sergey Kovalev is bowing under the pressure from his out-of-the-ring shenanigans, he had not made it apparent during his training camp, according to his head trainer Buddy McGirt.

McGirt says that the former light heavyweight had been noticeably upbeat as he prepared for his crossroads clash – which would have been his first fight in 14 months – against rising Uzbek prospect Bektemir Melikuziev.

The fight had been scheduled for January 30 in Los Angeles - and recently canceled after Kovalev came up positive for synthetic testosterone in a doping test issued by VADA.

Kovalev's handlers have denied that he knowingly ingested any illegal substances. They have made a request for the B-sample to be analyzed.

"I work with Sergei, we were in the process of preparation. We saw each other recently, he did not say anything to me. I am not aware of the positive doping test," McGirt said to tass.

Kovalev, 37, was last seen in the ring getting folded by Canelo Alvarez at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on Nov. 2, 2019. Since that time Kovalev has spent more time generating headlines for TMZ thanks to a heap of out-of-the-ring scandals, including a sexual assault case, DUI, alleged altercation with a woman on a plane, among others.

In his most recent kerfuffle, Kovalev (34-4-1, 29 KOs) was reportedly caught illegally streaming the DAZN broadcast of the Canelo Alvarez vs. Callum Smith super middleweight title fight on his Instagram Live. The Athletic reported that DAZN, which is showcasing Kovalev’s next fight against Melikuziev, is mulling legal action.

McGirt says they had been training together for a month and that his charge’s extracurricular troubles have not been a topic of conversation.

“I don’t know anything about them (the legal troubles),” McGirt admitted to Boxing Scene. “He won’t even talk about them. He doesn’t bring it up and I don’t bring it up. We’re just training and cracking jokes.”

Although Melikuziev (6-0, 5 KOs) is a career super middleweight, McGirt viewed the contest as being very dangerous.

“The kid is dangerous. He has knock out written all over him.” McGirt said of Melikuziev.

McGirt is not worried about Kovalev becoming irrelevant, as he believes his charge is still the subject of much intrigue.

“The key is this: you worry about them when they stop talking about you,” McGirt said. “As long as they’re talking about you, you will be alright. He’s well-rested and in his mind and heart he has something to prove."

Sergey Kovalev Fails Second Test For Synthetic Testosterone

Another sample given, another failed drug test for Sergey Kovalev.

Boxing Scene has learned that the former three-time light heavyweight world titlist has tested positive again for synthetic testosterone, failing a second random Voluntary Anti-Doping Association-administered drug test eight days after he also failed for the same banned substance that led to the cancelation of his 178-pound catch weight fight against up-and-comer Bektemir “Bek Bully” Melikuziev. The fight was scheduled to take place as the main event of a DAZN card on Jan. 30 at the Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, California.

For the first failed test, Kovalev supplied a sample to VADA on Dec. 30 in Las Vegas, which came back positive for synthetic testosterone on Jan. 13.

He was tested again on Jan. 7 in Oxnard, California, and that test returned a positive result on Friday, according to documentation obtained by BS.

“Adverse analytical finding: IRMS (isotope-ratio mass spectrometry) results are consistent with exogenous origin of testosterone and metabolites,” according to the letter VADA sent outlining the details of the test results to those involved in the now-canceled event, a copy of which was obtained by BS.

Kovalev (34-4-1, 29 KOs), 37, a Russia native fighting out of Santa Monica, California, was trying to make a comeback following the loss of the WBO 175-pound world title to Canelo Alvarez by brutal 11th-round knockout on Nov. 2, 2019 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Alvarez had moved up two weight classes to challenge Kovalev for the title.

With another failed test, advancing age, eroding skills and a variety of issues outside the ring, it Kovalev’s future in boxing is cloudy. It also remains to be seen what kind of punishment the California State Athletic Commission will hand out following the positive drug tests.

But it seems unlikely that Kovalev will fight any time soon for what was supposed to be a $2.5 million comeback fight that was owed to him as part of the deal for the fight against Alvarez.

Kovalev was initially scheduled to fight former light heavyweight world title challenger Sullivan Barrera at 180 pounds in his comeback fight in the main event of a DAZN card on April 25, also at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino. However, that card was scrapped due to the coronavirus pandemic.

After the first failed test, Main Events CEO Kathy Duva, Kovalev’s longtime promoter, acknowledged the initial test result.

“We are aware of the adverse finding from VADA,” Duva said at the time. “Sergey Kovalev has been proven to be a clean fighter throughout the many years that he has been tested by VADA. VADA was contracted for this fight at his insistence, as he has requested for almost all of his fights going back several years. He maintains that he did not purposefully ingest any banned substances. We have made arrangements to have his supplements tested for contamination and will request that VADA test his B sample.”

Kovalev also has the right to have the B sample from Jan. 7 tested at his own cost.

Once the Jan. 30 card was canceled, Golden Boy Promotions, Melikuziev’s promoter, added him to the undercard of its Feb. 13 DAZN event at the Fantasy Springs Resort Casino. That card is headlined by junior lightweight titlist Joseph Diaz Jr. facing mandatory challenger Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov with junior middleweight titlist Patrick Teixeira making his first title defense against mandatory challenger Brian Castano in the co-feature.

Melikuziev (6-0, 5 KOs), 24, a 2016 Olympic silver medalist from Uzbekistan, will face an opponent to be determined in a 10-round super middleweight bout.

no self respecting black man can be a fan of sergey

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 02:56 no self respecting black man can be a fan of sergey

Are you black?