bobcatbox wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 22:23Enlightened-One wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 22:17What’s GGG’s KO rate for the bouts he’s competed against top-five world rated opposition within the last three years?
Depends. As rated by who?
According to The RING, ESPNN & TBRB, and the majority of this forum, GGG hasn't stopped a legitimate top-five world-rated opponent within the last three years.
Since the start of 2018, GGG has only stopped Vanes Martirosyan, Steve Rolls and Kamil Szeremeta. And none of them were top-five world-rated 160lb-ers.
This might surprise you, but Golovkin has only KO’d one top-five world-rated middleweight within the last 6½ years, which was when he defeated David Lemieux to commence the start of his first IBF title reign.
For the record, GGG has been competing in the pro ranks for almost 15 years. And in that time, he has only ever stopped two fighters that were considered top-five world-rated middleweights, during the course of his 43-bout career.
These aren't my personal opinions, since these statements accurately reflect The RING, ESPNN & TBRB's ratings.
bobcatbox wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 22:23I don’t think GGG is as dangerous at 168.
I agree. And I don't believe that anyone could possibly claim otherwise.
GGG has persistently refused to fulfil his long-term boasts about being capable of beating boxing's elite-level fighters from 154lbs to 175lbs. The reason for this seems obvious - he lied, because it was merely a marketing gimmick.
Put it this way, GGG chose to face the unheralded and unaccomplished Steve Rolls at a 164lbs catchweight, rather than challenging for one of his fellow DAZN stablemates' (Callum Smith and Billy Joe Saunders) 168lbs world titles.
And Golovkin also decided to renounce his WBO mandatory challenger status, when he preferred to engage in the Steve Rolls mismatch, rather than challenging for Demetrius Andrade's middleweight title, with the champion being another DAZN stablemate.
For his most recent outing, Golovkin could have faced Billy Joe Saunders, Demetrius Andrade or several other bigger names, but Gennadiy chose to take the easy route against Kamil Szeremeta.
bobcatbox wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 22:23And he ain’t the same guy he was three years ago. Canelo wins the third fight by a large margin.
I agree.
I think there’s an undeniable reason why GGG has intentionally chosen to engage in a few mismatches, against the likes of Vanes Martirosyan, Steve Rolls and Kamil Szeremeta, within the last three years, is because he knows that he’s well past-his-prime.
Gennadiy has become a risk-averse fighter, because he appears to be doing his utmost to avoid defeat, since it’ll result in him missing out on a third highly-lucrative Canelo mega payday.
GGG’s die-hard fans may dishonestly point out that Gennadiy regained his vacant IBF title by defeating the respectable Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
However, let’s not become revisionist historians by forgetting that when Gennadiy took the fight, the Ukrainian had suffered a recent defeat to Danny Jacobs, a man that GGG had previously beaten, albeit moderately controversially.
So the Kazakh chose to face someone he previously avoided, because,
on paper, Gennadiy wrongly assumed that he was fighting someone he "
should" be able to beat. But as we all know,
paper burns! Despite the official result, GGG lost that bout, because he failed to appreciate how far he'd declined.
And suppose GGG doesn’t receive another opportunity to face Canelo on Cinco de Mayo 2021. In that case, I think he’ll inevitably engage in another mismatch by facing an opponent with a similar calibre to the likes of Martirosyan, Rolls and Szeremeta.
Let's not forget that GGG explained during his DAZN introduction press-conference that he wanted to compete in the "most important" and "most interesting" fights in boxing. He also said he no longer cared about the belts, partially because of "politics" and partly due to his belief that "sometimes the people with the belts aren't the best boxers."
I'm not sure how you've interpreted GGG's comments, but Gennadiy's fights on DAZN against Derevyanchenko, Szeremeta and Rolls certainly don't reflect those objectives.
bobcatbox wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 22:23The public seems to demand it before they’ll grant Alvarez the legitimacy he deserves as P4P #1. Hopefully it gets made for next May.
DAZN tried to dishonestly pretend that GGG was back to his “fearsome” best, during the immediate aftermath of the Kamil Szeremeta mismatch.
However, to plagiarise one of Teddy Atlas’ phrases, the Polish fighter was merely a mannequin. He physically looked like a fighter, but he clearly wasn’t.
Szeremeta couldn’t punch his way out of a proverbial paper bag. It was far too easy to predict that he would give little resistance to Golovkin.
Five years ago, GGG would have stopped someone like Szeremeta within two or three rounds, which proves he’s nowhere near his best.
Apart from a decent payday, any third GGG bout would simply be a no-win situation for Canelo.
If he emerges victorious, hard-core boxing fans will claim he only defeated a 39-year-old empty shell of a Hall-of-Famer. Canelo beating a badly-faded version of an opponent most believed he already defeated during 2018, which will be considered a pointless exercise that won't enhance his legacy.
The only alternative is that the Mexican somehow loses to someone universally considered nowhere near as good as they once were.
For sure, some of the mainstream casuals may be gullible enough to pay to watch the rematch, but Canelo will be much better and physically bigger, whereas GGG will be much older, than the same versions of the men that would have fought 2½ years prior.
Seeing Canelo fighting Golovkin again during May 2021 could prove to be a harrowing experience for GGG's die-hard fans, especially if it’s fought at 168lbs.
And it may play out with the faded veteran iteration of GGG on the receiving end of a one-sided humiliating beatdown, much akin to the likes of Ali-Holmes, Leonard-Camacho, Holmes-Tyson, Jones Jr.-Johnson, Holyfield-Toney, Duran-Joppy, Chavez Sr-Tszyu, Tyson-Williams, Hopkins-Smith Jr., De La Hoya-Pacquiao, Haye-Bellew etc.
whatever u are taking... i want one of those... golden balls too... must be heavy shit! 'sub 140'
