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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 15:54

Aftermath wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 12:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 04:01 oh man, the things i have heard accomplished boxing champions say

They've actually been in the ring all their lives. They know what they're watching. They get paid more for their boxing opinion than you do.

'accomplished boxing champions' paid for their opinion also have conor benn beating porter, spence, and crawford right now, omg we better all agree since theyre 'accomplished boxingg champions' and we're lowly forum plebs!! boxers say stupid sh!t all the time ..: ..we better always score the same way as them too, have the exact same predictions (despite them being proven wrong countlessly), and never question their views, because omg theyre boxers

you gotta judge what they actually say, and not just kneel down and deepthroat them because they're boxers my man, i defo think diaz was ready to go and wouldve been taken out earlier if nava pressed a little more, i like myself some nava, but i think he ended up taking more shots and having to put in more work overall than he needed. if espn's commentary has another view, totally fine, people disagree all the time and that includes boxers seeing things differently from each other too, it's part of the game

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 17:11 Hey my man, I'm not the one saying we gotta bow down and accept that what 'accomplished' pro fighters say is right because they are pro fighters lol. In that case, we better never disagree with any of their predictions, scores, or commentary - it follows from your reasoning, in fact, why do we even post here when our own views are so worthless

By the time Nava was bouncing Diaz off the canvas, he was obviously going to win that fight, him doing so wasn't some super prediction that only pro fighters could tell. Who the hell would think anything else by that point.

Now, would he have won earlier and easier if he stepped on the gas more following the 2nd and 3rd knockdowns when Diaz was badly broken down? Since he never did that, we can't say for sure what would've happened, and hence it cannot be said that he made the 'right' decision in the end when comparing the 2 approaches. Either way he was going to win, but I think he could've done it earlier and taken fewer shots in doing so

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 19:05 Just got around to watching the berlanga fight... He looked pretty average in there. Think he loses to any real levle right now. Needs more fights just like that (might have to go up half a levle to constantly have em hang around some rounds...). His power dosent seem legendary, and that was probably clear early on when most of his stoppages came from swarming and often standing (even if they were round 1).

Of his 4 KDs: 1st was not a big shot but clean enough to a fighter that had his feet in a bad spot and was already off balance. 2nd was a blatant push/throw/fend mess, absolutly not a KD. 3rd had a crisp shot befor but was ultimently a pushdown and shouldent of been scored in my opinion. and 4th was a nice legit counter (actualy supprised they didnt wave it, absolutly should not have, but with 10 seconds to go in the fight, they had a chance to keep the knockout ratio 100% and could justify it saying "its his 4th time down" , very glad they didnt do that though thats scum moves...)

the interesting part is he got hit a bit, poor head movment, even a lazy jab found the mark a fair bit of the time, not that the comentators were mentioning it, and not that they were huge shots (big strait right in the last round though, comentators couldent ignore it.)stood up to it, but yea wouldent throw him in with any killers yet...