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is it joshua's fault that fury lost the court case to wilder?

Completely the fault of campy Fury.

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It is 100% on Arum, who should retire like a dry pile of and blow away.

ironbeard wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 13:21 It is 100% on Arum, who should retire like a dry pile of and blow away.

Thanks for that mental image

Foggy wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 11:57 Joshua Fury must happen, biggest fight in UK boxing history

Totally disagree. No way biggest fight UK history.

Muttley wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 13:48

Foggy wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 11:57 Joshua Fury must happen, biggest fight in UK boxing history

Totally disagree. No way biggest fight UK history.

What is?

In terms of money generated - then yes Fury v Joshua would prob be the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

In terms of UK public awareness and anticipation - i very much doubt it. Lennox v Bruno would have been bigger .. and probably a couple of Nigel Benn fights too.

Boxing is not as mainstream as back in the day; Fury and Joshua are a victim of that.

Benn Eubank 1 was huge

emallini wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:00 Benn Eubank 1 was huge

It was for a title unrecognised at the time. This is the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. They're not even on the same planet.

tonyevs wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 14:34 In terms of money generated - then yes Fury v Joshua would prob be the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

In terms of UK public awareness and anticipation - i very much doubt it. Lennox v Bruno would have been bigger .. and probably a couple of Nigel Benn fights too.

Boxing is not as mainstream as back in the day; Fury and Joshua are a victim of that.

Lewis-Bruno got nowhere near even selling out.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:04

emallini wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:00 Benn Eubank 1 was huge

It was for a title unrecognised at the time. This is the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. They're not even on the same planet.

Its a question of what you feel is the factor making it the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

Me personally I`d identify what gained the biggest UK public interest - in which case there was far more public interest and anticipation of Benn v Eubank.
Back in the day huge numbers were tuning in for the Saturday night fights. That unfortunately shows my age .. it was probably 25 years since then.

Surlely Eubank Benn 2 was bigger than the 1st?

IMO Fury AJ is bigger than Bruno Lewis, both bring a belt to the table, well all the belts and this would be for the lineal/undisputed championship.

Don’t get me wrong Benn Eubank (both fights) were massive but the big boys are always more attractive and generate more interest so that just pips it for me (and I do prefer Eubank/Benn over Fury and AJ as personalities and boxers).

I do agree about the ITV comment though, the general public did have more interest back in the day

What other all British fights would you class as massive:-

Bruno Lewis
Froch Groves 2
Eubank/Benn/Watson
AJ Fury
Watt Buchanan

Any more .............

Benn v Eubank 2 was massive. Far bigger than the first fight.

Lewis v Bruno was also gigantic in terms of the national interest.

All before social media too.

I watched this dude about a week ago and looks like he was spot on.

Foggy wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:39 What other all British fights would you class as massive:-

Bruno Lewis
Froch Groves 2
Eubank/Benn/Watson
AJ Fury
Watt Buchanan

Any more .............

Haye/Chisora

Going back further, I’ve read that Mills vs Harvey was a huge deal at the time (30k at White Heart Lane)

Ive been following boxing since the late 70s and the biggest fights in the uk in terms of national interest etc were

Bruno -Witherspoon
Mcguigan - Pedroza
Benn - Eubank 2

None of the others come close.. Bruno - Lewis i remember was only half full and Benn vs embank 1 wasn't really that big of a deal as eubank was unknown on the street at the time and benn had lost to watson. the second fight was absolutely enormous though.

This fight would defo have sat with the three i mention. Huge interest praying aj beats u and fury beats wilder.Wilder is a total twat btw not taking step aside money.

BigGar wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:41 Benn v Eubank 2 was massive. Far bigger than the first fight.

Lewis v Bruno was also gigantic in terms of the national interest.

All before social media too.

BigGar wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:41 Benn v Eubank 2 was massive. Far bigger than the first fight.

Lewis v Bruno was also gigantic in terms of the national interest.

All before social media too.

And before box office. Neither sold out. Getting a ticket for Fury-AJ would be like pulling teeth. Bruno-Witherspoon didn't even nearly half fill Wembley. Watt-Buchannan was on a dinner show!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:04

emallini wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:00 Benn Eubank 1 was huge

It was for a title unrecognised at the time. This is the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. They're not even on the same planet.

Nobody cares. Barring the 13 people on this forum.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:05

tonyevs wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 14:34 In terms of money generated - then yes Fury v Joshua would prob be the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

In terms of UK public awareness and anticipation - i very much doubt it. Lennox v Bruno would have been bigger .. and probably a couple of Nigel Benn fights too.

Boxing is not as mainstream as back in the day; Fury and Joshua are a victim of that.

Lewis-Bruno got nowhere near even selling out.

So? It wasn’t a big thing to go to a boxing match back then - there was no O2 arena or new Wembley Stadium, no giant screens, and finding out how to even buy a ticket was too much hassle. Just watch it on telly like (literally) everyone else.

J-C wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 16:31

Foggy wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:39 What other all British fights would you class as massive:-

Bruno Lewis
Froch Groves 2
Eubank/Benn/Watson
AJ Fury
Watt Buchanan

Any more .............

Haye/Chisora

Going back further, I’ve read that Mills vs Harvey was a huge deal at the time (30k at White Heart Lane)

That is an absurd crowd.

Foggy wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:39 What other all British fights would you class as massive:-

Bruno Lewis
Froch Groves 2
Eubank/Benn/Watson
AJ Fury
Watt Buchanan

Any more .............

Watt was pretty unknown when he faced Ken

tonyevs wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:18

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:04

emallini wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:00 Benn Eubank 1 was huge

It was for a title unrecognised at the time. This is the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. They're not even on the same planet.

Its a question of what you feel is the factor making it the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

Me personally I`d identify what gained the biggest UK public interest - in which case there was far more public interest and anticipation of Benn v Eubank.
Back in the day huge numbers were tuning in for the Saturday night fights. That unfortunately shows my age .. it was probably 25 years since then.

We’ll never see anything remotely close to those days again. And certainly hadn’t previously.

It was a peak or zenith

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 18:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 15:05

tonyevs wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 14:34 In terms of money generated - then yes Fury v Joshua would prob be the biggest fight in UK boxing history.

In terms of UK public awareness and anticipation - i very much doubt it. Lennox v Bruno would have been bigger .. and probably a couple of Nigel Benn fights too.

Boxing is not as mainstream as back in the day; Fury and Joshua are a victim of that.

Lewis-Bruno got nowhere near even selling out.

So? It wasn’t a big thing to go to a boxing match back then - there was no O2 arena or new Wembley Stadium, no giant screens, and finding out how to even buy a ticket was too much hassle. Just watch it on telly like (literally) everyone else.

Literally?