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Allas wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 17:55

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 15:46

Allas wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 09:04

AJ went over old ground with a 20 stone midget and tried rematching Whyte.

josh hadnt beaten ruiz before, fury-wilder 2 is comparable to that and was the natural fight, but the 3rd doesnt really seem necessary other than for legalities

if aj-ruiz 3 were made right now i wouldnt really be into it either, just other stuff out there

That’s my point. Needing 2 cracks at Ruiz cos he got splattered all over first time around is much more ‘hurting his standing on the heavyweight scene’ than Fury fighting Wilder because of a legal court ruling.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 18:36 i'm gonna have to smack aj's team if they think this one is too risky, it's just not man!

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 03:49

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 18:36 i'm gonna have to smack aj's team if they think this one is too risky, it's just not man!

I agree, stunning the number of folks who think Usyk wins this. Like they expect Usyk to be Pernell Whitaker in there. He’s going to get hit and hard, and he’s not going to just absorb it all.

Monte Fisto wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 18:24 Defo see them swerving this fight sadly. Too risky, the pot of gold at the end isn’t worth risking. Hope I’m wrong.

Allas wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 10:05
I'm not a Fury fan mate, far from it. Can criticise AJ without being a 'Fury fanboy'

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 09:58 Cmon, Usyk far too small for a huge hard hitting power house like Joshua. Usyk looked panicked at the power & size of a slow lumbering lump like Chisora. Josh will pullverise him.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 10:54 Gassiev and Breidis caught him clean without a reaction, both much heavier hitters than Del.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 03:53

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 03:49

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 18:36 i'm gonna have to smack aj's team if they think this one is too risky, it's just not man!

I agree, stunning the number of folks who think Usyk wins this. Like they expect Usyk to be Pernell Whitaker in there. He’s going to get hit and hard, and he’s not going to just absorb it all.

as i've said before my main worry for Usyk at heavyweight is that he doesn't (or at least he didn't) slip and roll shots, but often absorbs them on the guard, which would be a recipe for him getting knocked around at heavyweight IMO

skanksta wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 12:04 I used to think AJ was just too big, then he lost to Ruiz. Nothing like Ruiz obvs, but he IS smaller with fast hands. Suddenly AJ was too stiff and a bit chinny.
Usyk would befuddle him AND be able to hurt him.

Then Usyk looked like he struggled with the size and strength of DelBoy. I'm back on the AJ 'too big and strong' train.

IF AJ is gunshy, and back-foot cautious - a la Ruiz2 - he will be outboxed. There can't be any doubt that Usyk is better, but SURELY he'll get straight down to business and go after him ?

Just make a high-tempo, high-contact, physical fight and the size advantage will do the rest. OR he can do very little and wins a crap decision like vs Parker and Ruiz2.

I agree it with others that it'll look a bit like the POV fight. AJ struggling with the tekkers for a while, before eventually power tells.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 12:20

skanksta wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 12:04 I used to think AJ was just too big, then he lost to Ruiz. Nothing like Ruiz obvs, but he IS smaller with fast hands. Suddenly AJ was too stiff and a bit chinny.
Usyk would befuddle him AND be able to hurt him.

Then Usyk looked like he struggled with the size and strength of DelBoy. I'm back on the AJ 'too big and strong' train.

IF AJ is gunshy, and back-foot cautious - a la Ruiz2 - he will be outboxed. There can't be any doubt that Usyk is better, but SURELY he'll get straight down to business and go after him ?

Just make a high-tempo, high-contact, physical fight and the size advantage will do the rest. OR he can do very little and wins a crap decision like vs Parker and Ruiz2.

I agree it with others that it'll look a bit like the POV fight. AJ struggling with the tekkers for a while, before eventually power tells.

I think Usyk punches are way weaker than Ruiz, and that will be his undoing.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 12:51 Whyte now wants to fight AJ next

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 16:18

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 12:51 Whyte now wants to fight AJ next

So does Ruiz

rd350lc wrote: ↑26 May 2021, 16:28 The Usyk fight is far more interesting than going over old ground .