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Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:50

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 10:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 10:54
How do you rate Chris with regards to Wallin?

Wallin is better than Arreola has ever been.

Based on what?

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:51

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 10:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 10:54
How do you rate Chris with regards to Wallin?

Wallin is better than Arreola has ever been.

Ohhhh...ok. So I'm guessing you won't be watching this fight. Just commenting on the matchup.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:57

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:55

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:50

Based on what?

At least on the fact, that Wallin can box in comparison to Arreola.

So your not basing this on results?

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:01

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:57

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:55

At least on the fact, that Wallin can box in comparison to Arreola.

So your not basing this on results?

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:21

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:01

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 11:57

So your not basing this on results?

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:52

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:21

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:01

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:52

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:21

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 13:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:52

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 13:40 I base my opinion on the fact I don't think Dil is very good. To put him above Ruiz is just silly. He stopped a prime AJ and then lost on points when not even training. Whyte got brutally KO'd by an inexperienced AJ... then Dil gets absolutely iced by Pov and they get him out of the hospital for the rematch.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 13:40 I base my opinion on the fact I don't think Dil is very good. To put him above Ruiz is just silly. He stopped a prime AJ and then lost on points when not even training. Whyte got brutally KO'd by an inexperienced AJ... then Dil gets absolutely iced by Pov and they get him out of the hospital for the rematch.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 14:49

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 13:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:54
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:01

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 14:49

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 13:27

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:15

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:01

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 14:49

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:20

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:15

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:01

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

Walcott was the moral victor.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:22

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:20

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:15
Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

Walcott was the moral victor.

LOL! He didn't get my point...again. He's all over the place.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:33

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:22
LOL! He didn't get my point...again. He's all over the place.

Maybe there was just no point?

Trust me, there was a point and, well, you missed it.

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:36 Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:36 Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

Another great argument.

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:40

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:36 Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

Another great argument.

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:43

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:40

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:38
Another great argument.

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

I asked you before about Walcott/Marciano (based on your own posts regarding a said fighter winning by ko after being behind) and you've resorted to childish responses. Care to take it on? or are we done here?

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:52

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:21

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

Cyclops wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:48

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 12:52

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

Done you there, mate

To be fair, trying to sell Robert Helenius, Lucas Browne and COVID-ridden geriatric Povetkin, who was almost knocked out by a draft on his way to the ring, as part of some sort of murderer's row Dillian's battled through to get to his position is as disingenuous as leaving Wach off the list (who would have beaten Browne at the very least, and held his own with the others). Parker is his best win, Chisora is his 2nd (because Chisora should also hold a win over Parker, a fresh unbeaten hyped up Helenius and Whyte himself) and Rivas his third. They're good wins.

His chin does look a bit iffy though these days, doesn't it? And there''s nothing wrong with Arreola's mandible. He also seems to have a bit of a dig on him still, considering how he decked everybody's favourite blob, Fat Andy Ruiz and had him in considerably more trouble than Joshua ever did. Arreola might just turn out to be a Povetkin-esque banana skin for Dillian.

By the way, Hearn will 'stack' the undercard with Katie Taylor, Lawrence Okolie and Joshua Buatsi against some people that you've never heard of, and it'll be PPV.