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Re: weight bullies

Posted: 08 Jun 2021, 09:44
by Dioufy
To stay dead at the weight for over 24hrs and not be noticeable to physicians overseeing the weigh ins wouldn’t be possible IMO.
Yes, you made a good point in weight maybe not being achieved at the 2nd weigh in but if only a few lbs or less then normal sanctions would apply like deductions in purse, titles not on the line for you, ect.
It’s not a perfect science my idea and no idea is invulnerable to stopping fighters losing a lot of weight then regaining it over night.
I just hate seeing middleweights 175lbs plus.
I think it’s dangerous and it does create significant differences in fight outcomes.
If you weigh 175lbs on fight night, fight at God damn light heavy.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 08 Jun 2021, 14:50
by margaret thatcher
Counter-puncher wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 06:04
margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 20:02 its very interesting, cuz i totally see why it has an unfair vibe to it. we have weight divisions and rate guys p4p to eliminate the size factor. we value often those abilities that take so much application and practice to craft properly. and no one says that manuel charr is better than tank davis or inoue etc, even though he would beat their asses simply cuz he's bigger

on the other hand, is having the right genetics to be able to drain a ton of weight, any more unfair than having the genetics that make you a way bigger puncher than the other guys?
that is a bit unfair too isnt it, wasnt something your or the others had a choice over. and getting weight right can take lots of dedication too

now, let's say your an a-side fighter, and you blow the weight, but then payoff the other guy either to take the fight anyway or for the limit to be upped, that's not any genetic gift or dedication
my guess is that a genetic predisposition (or not) for cutting weight, is secondary to the scientific knowledge/ whatever cheats they use. IE having the right team in place (with all that entails) a bigger factor than genetics, though i stand to be corrected on that
ya could be right about that......and obviously the higher end guys can have whole teams who work on this stuff for them

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 09 Jun 2021, 06:09
by gb
When weight cutting goes wrong:
The crazy thing about that was that the doctor thought it was sensible to let him have a second go at the weigh-in! Who was the doctor - Jozef Mengele?!

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 11 Jun 2021, 12:32
by ironbeard
Jarrett Hurd is the modern poster child for this thread.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 11 Jun 2021, 12:35
by JamesPhilips
Eubank always looked huge ar middleweight. He used to take breaks in fights to conserve his energy. He eventually went up to cruiserweight. I reckon Chris could be considered

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 06:38
by adislav123
gb wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 06:09 When weight cutting goes wrong:
The crazy thing about that was that the doctor thought it was sensible to let him have a second go at the weigh-in! Who was the doctor - Jozef Mengele?!
you got ANY IDEA what's the crazy thing bout your comment?

where is the slightest connection between that weigh in doctor and fornicating mengele?

that guy is a doctor, mengele was a doctor too , right? man, that's funny!

you really are a funny man. hilarious.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 16:12
by gb
adislav123 wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 06:38
gb wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 06:09 When weight cutting goes wrong:
The crazy thing about that was that the doctor thought it was sensible to let him have a second go at the weigh-in! Who was the doctor - Jozef Mengele?!
you got ANY IDEA what's the crazy thing bout your comment?

where is the slightest connection between that weigh in doctor and fornicating mengele?

that guy is a doctor, mengele was a doctor too , right? man, that's funny!

you really are a funny man. hilarious.
Would you have preferred it if I'd replaced Mengele with Harold Shipman? I think most people get the joke.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 18:33
by Cyclops
gb wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 16:12
adislav123 wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 06:38
gb wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 06:09 When weight cutting goes wrong:
The crazy thing about that was that the doctor thought it was sensible to let him have a second go at the weigh-in! Who was the doctor - Jozef Mengele?!
you got ANY IDEA what's the crazy thing bout your comment?

where is the slightest connection between that weigh in doctor and fornicating mengele?

that guy is a doctor, mengele was a doctor too , right? man, that's funny!

you really are a funny man. hilarious.
Would you have preferred it if I'd replaced Mengele with Harold Shipman? I think most people get the joke.
Seriously don't even bother with this bloke. He's a moron.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 18:35
by margaret thatcher
ritson was mentioned......you can sure see a huge power drop off since he moved up

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 18:42
by gb
Cyclops wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 18:33
gb wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 16:12
adislav123 wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 06:38

you got ANY IDEA what's the crazy thing bout your comment?

where is the slightest connection between that weigh in doctor and fornicating mengele?

that guy is a doctor, mengele was a doctor too , right? man, that's funny!

you really are a funny man. hilarious.
Would you have preferred it if I'd replaced Mengele with Harold Shipman? I think most people get the joke.
Seriously don't even bother with this bloke. He's a moron.
I did wonder.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 19:06
by adislav123
Cyclops wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 18:33
gb wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 16:12
adislav123 wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 06:38

you got ANY IDEA what's the crazy thing bout your comment?

where is the slightest connection between that weigh in doctor and fornicating mengele?

that guy is a doctor, mengele was a doctor too , right? man, that's funny!

you really are a funny man. hilarious.
Would you have preferred it if I'd replaced Mengele with Harold Shipman? I think most people get the joke.
Seriously don't even bother with this bloke. He's a moron.
please, do the moron a favour and be so kind to explain the 'joke' you think most people get!

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 19:08
by margaret thatcher
its obvious what he meant, dont take things too seriously my man

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 19:08
by Cyclops
gb wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 18:42
Cyclops wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 18:33
gb wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 16:12
Would you have preferred it if I'd replaced Mengele with Harold Shipman? I think most people get the joke.
Seriously don't even bother with this bloke. He's a moron.
I did wonder.
Dunno what Adaislav said because he's on ignore.

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 12 Jun 2021, 20:06
by adislav123
margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 19:08 its obvious what he meant, dont take things too seriously my man
if it's so obvious than what the heck did he actually mean?


is it very complicated to explain?


where is the relation between a fight doctor responsible for the procedure of the weigh-in of a professional mma contest and effing dr. josef mengele?

i'd appreciate if the joker or anybody who 'gets it' could quickly explain it cause i'd really like to be in on that 'joke'?

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 13 Jun 2021, 02:58
by gb
adislav123 wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 20:06
margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Jun 2021, 19:08 its obvious what he meant, dont take things too seriously my man
if it's so obvious than what the heck did he actually mean?


is it very complicated to explain?


where is the relation between a fight doctor responsible for the procedure of the weigh-in of a professional mma contest and effing dr. josef mengele?

i'd appreciate if the joker or anybody who 'gets it' could quickly explain it cause i'd really like to be in on that 'joke'?
Both are doctors who I wouldn't want to be looked after by. Get it now?

Re: weight bullies

Posted: 06 Jul 2021, 11:36
by PredatorHayds
Higa was arguably one of the biggest punchers in the world.
I thought he would be a future pound for pound star similar to how Inoue developed.

But the massive cuts to flyweight took their toll. He missed weight for Rosales. Looks awful at the weigh-in and ended up getting beaten.

He then jumped up two weight classes and hasn’t looked the same since.

Making weight should be hard but some people kill themselves to fight at an unrealistic weight class and ruin their careers.