Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 11:49
You may be right, but the calibre of opponents Anderson has been facing over the last couple of years is not too dissimilar than the likes of Ajagba, Sanchez, Hrgovic and Arslan Iallyev have fought.
I think there's only so much experience can be gained treading water against journeymen.
Even if prospects are doing most of their learning/developing inside the gym, Jared Anderson has been sparring Tyson Fury. And you can't get a much better learning environment than that. The American has also been sparring Efe Ajagba.
Out of the fighters I've listed, perhaps Tony Yoka and Agit Kabayel are on another level (in terms of the names they've beaten). So perhaps we can exclude those.
Agit Kabayel is crap ... Ajagba is build like a Gorilla, He will make to top 3-5 easily. Lot of people here don't know that he can take hard punch, That's why his instinct tells him march forward without much head movement, which of course needs to be fixed.
Iago Kiladze?
You dumb shit ... a punch that you don't see can put you down. And he was not even hurt slightest and back on his feet and murdered Iago Kiladze
Boxtune wrote: ↑16 Jun 2021, 13:26Ajagba is build like a Gorilla, He will make to top 3-5 easily. Lot of people here don't know that he can take hard punch, That's why his instinct tells him march forward without much head movement...
Iago Kiladze?
You dumb shit ... he was not even hurt slightest...
You dumb shit ... he was not even hurt slightest...
Thanks for sharing HD. After knockdown, remaining 4.5 minutes of beating was so brutal that Iago Kilzade even didn't know they had stoped the fight, he thought a round just ended and physician had to tell him to SEAT DOWN few times.
I doubt Kiladze will even fight again for 2 years after his brain was Smashed like that !!
Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 09:13
You dumb shit ... he was not even hurt slightest...
Thanks for sharing HD. After knockdown, remaining 4.5 minutes of beating was so brutal that Iago Kilzade even didn't know they had stoped the fight, he thought a round just ended and physician had to tell him to SEAT DOWN few times.
I doubt Kiladze will even fight again for 2 years after his brain was Smashed like that !!
He didn’t think the round ended. He was complaining about an early stoppage cause he wasn’t very hurt and then the red explained that he only stopped it cause the corner did, once again evidence that he wasn’t brutally hurt. But if you can chalk that up to a brutal KO in your mind then that’s some respectable mental gymnastics to keep your boy efe a strait killer.
Ps brutal knockdown efe copped, has a top prospect ever been dropped by a worse opponent, I’m sure they have but I can’t remember any recently.
Thanks for sharing HD. After knockdown, remaining 4.5 minutes of beating was so brutal that Iago Kilzade even didn't know they had stoped the fight, he thought a round just ended and physician had to tell him to SEAT DOWN few times.
I doubt Kiladze will even fight again for 2 years after his brain was Smashed like that !!
He didn’t think the round ended. He was complaining about an early stoppage cause he wasn’t very hurt and then the red explained that he only stopped it cause the corner did, once again evidence that he wasn’t brutally hurt. But if you can chalk that up to a brutal KO in your mind then that’s some respectable mental gymnastics to keep your boy efe a strait killer.
Ps brutal knockdown efe copped, has a top prospect ever been dropped by a worse opponent, I’m sure they have but I can’t remember any recently.
Now everyone knows Kilzade Just because Ajagba getting Knockdown was a like a big surprise !
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 19 Jun 2021, 08:03
by thereverend
The way these guys are handled is disgraceful. Protected for years fighting tomato cans until enough hype builds up about their supposed invincibility until they get a big payday against a belt. Then after the inevitable trouncing they get tossed onto the garbage heap of failed contenders and forgotten. Rather then taking their licks against solid opponents on their way up, a lot can be learned from a loss versus a guy who's a challenge stylistically. But this would disqualify a prospect from contention in many peoples' minds. The fans are partly to blame but the promoters are, as always, the biggest problem.
The Kildaze fight is great for showcasing Ajagba's strengths and weaknesses. He has that great Ali type body but with modern size, calling him gorilla-like is an insult. He's not top-heavy or bulked up at all. It's easy to see why people get excited. He seems to have a solid chin. His size and length leave him in control of the action most of the time. He has plenty of pop although I wouldn't call it unique or one-of-a-kind. Not like Wilder for instance where the power alone is enough to win a belt.
The lack of head and foot movement is a fatal flaw. It's amazing to me his trainers didn't correct that years ago. Very hittable coming straight forward and straight back. His style lacks flow, seems stiff and unnatural. A shame considering the Ali-type body. As long as he has a reach advantage over tomato can types he'll keep racking up wins but get him in with a guy same height and reach who can move a bit and it'll get ugly for him. On height and reach alone Frank should be beatable but we'll see what happens.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 19 Jun 2021, 14:52
by Boxtune
thereverend wrote: ↑19 Jun 2021, 08:03
The way these guys are handled is disgraceful. Protected for years fighting tomato cans until enough hype builds up about their supposed invincibility until they get a big payday against a belt. Then after the inevitable trouncing they get tossed onto the garbage heap of failed contenders and forgotten. Rather then taking their licks against solid opponents on their way up, a lot can be learned from a loss versus a guy who's a challenge stylistically. But this would disqualify a prospect from contention in many peoples' minds. The fans are partly to blame but the promoters are, as always, the biggest problem.
The Kildaze fight is great for showcasing Ajagba's strengths and weaknesses. He has that great Ali type body but with modern size, calling him gorilla-like is an insult. He's not top-heavy or bulked up at all. It's easy to see why people get excited. He seems to have a solid chin. His size and length leave him in control of the action most of the time. He has plenty of pop although I wouldn't call it unique or one-of-a-kind. Not like Wilder for instance where the power alone is enough to win a belt.
The lack of head and foot movement is a fatal flaw. It's amazing to me his trainers didn't correct that years ago. Very hittable coming straight forward and straight back. His style lacks flow, seems stiff and unnatural. A shame considering the Ali-type body. As long as he has a reach advantage over tomato can types he'll keep racking up wins but get him in with a guy same height and reach who can move a bit and it'll get ugly for him. On height and reach alone Frank should be beatable but we'll see what happens.
Ajagba has a different physic, Ali body was very fluid like a water, Ajaba fights rigid and upward like Ivan Drago in Rocky 4.
Ali at 208-225LBS was not a full 6'3" and Ajagba is bonny like wilder but masculine, who could be a shade under 6'7" only and his body hasn't filled out yet so he will at least 10-20LBS heavier , so he can't fight nothing like Ali.
Ajagba will have a lose in his record sooner or later, but large heavyweight like him bloom later at mid 30s age , specially someone fit like him who don't rely on technique but raw power, will be a force for many years .
thereverend wrote: ↑19 Jun 2021, 08:03
The way these guys are handled is disgraceful. Protected for years fighting tomato cans until enough hype builds up about their supposed invincibility until they get a big payday against a belt. Then after the inevitable trouncing they get tossed onto the garbage heap of failed contenders and forgotten. Rather then taking their licks against solid opponents on their way up, a lot can be learned from a loss versus a guy who's a challenge stylistically. But this would disqualify a prospect from contention in many peoples' minds. The fans are partly to blame but the promoters are, as always, the biggest problem.
The Kildaze fight is great for showcasing Ajagba's strengths and weaknesses. He has that great Ali type body but with modern size, calling him gorilla-like is an insult. He's not top-heavy or bulked up at all. It's easy to see why people get excited. He seems to have a solid chin. His size and length leave him in control of the action most of the time. He has plenty of pop although I wouldn't call it unique or one-of-a-kind. Not like Wilder for instance where the power alone is enough to win a belt.
The lack of head and foot movement is a fatal flaw. It's amazing to me his trainers didn't correct that years ago. Very hittable coming straight forward and straight back. His style lacks flow, seems stiff and unnatural. A shame considering the Ali-type body. As long as he has a reach advantage over tomato can types he'll keep racking up wins but get him in with a guy same height and reach who can move a bit and it'll get ugly for him. On height and reach alone Frank should be beatable but we'll see what happens.
Ajagba has a different physic, Ali body was very fluid like a water, Ajaba fights rigid and upward like Ivan Drago in Rocky 4.
Ali at 208-225LBS was not a full 6'3" and Ajagba is bonny like wilder but masculine, who could be a shade under 6'7" only and his body hasn't filled out yet so he will at least 10-20LBS heavier , so he can't fight nothing like Ali.
Ajagba will have a lose in his record sooner or later, but large heavyweight like him bloom later at mid 30s age , specially someone fit like him who don't rely on technique but raw power, will be a force for many years .
Oh bless! It seems like someone’s got a little crush on Ajagba.
thereverend wrote: ↑19 Jun 2021, 08:03
The way these guys are handled is disgraceful. Protected for years fighting tomato cans until enough hype builds up about their supposed invincibility until they get a big payday against a belt. Then after the inevitable trouncing they get tossed onto the garbage heap of failed contenders and forgotten. Rather then taking their licks against solid opponents on their way up, a lot can be learned from a loss versus a guy who's a challenge stylistically. But this would disqualify a prospect from contention in many peoples' minds. The fans are partly to blame but the promoters are, as always, the biggest problem.
The Kildaze fight is great for showcasing Ajagba's strengths and weaknesses. He has that great Ali type body but with modern size, calling him gorilla-like is an insult. He's not top-heavy or bulked up at all. It's easy to see why people get excited. He seems to have a solid chin. His size and length leave him in control of the action most of the time. He has plenty of pop although I wouldn't call it unique or one-of-a-kind. Not like Wilder for instance where the power alone is enough to win a belt.
The lack of head and foot movement is a fatal flaw. It's amazing to me his trainers didn't correct that years ago. Very hittable coming straight forward and straight back. His style lacks flow, seems stiff and unnatural. A shame considering the Ali-type body. As long as he has a reach advantage over tomato can types he'll keep racking up wins but get him in with a guy same height and reach who can move a bit and it'll get ugly for him. On height and reach alone Frank should be beatable but we'll see what happens.
Ajagba has a different physic, Ali body was very fluid like a water, Ajaba fights rigid and upward like Ivan Drago in Rocky 4.
Ali at 208-225LBS was not a full 6'3" and Ajagba is bonny like wilder but masculine, who could be a shade under 6'7" only and his body hasn't filled out yet so he will at least 10-20LBS heavier , so he can't fight nothing like Ali.
Ajagba will have a lose in his record sooner or later, but large heavyweight like him bloom later at mid 30s age , specially someone fit like him who don't rely on technique but raw power, will be a force for many years .
Oh bless! It seems like someone’s got a little crush on Ajagba.
Honestly your comments and few others here getting boring .. it's not even funny anymore, too much repetition
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 14:58
by adislav123
you are spot on, not funny. not at all. not one bit.
on the other hand your continuing elaborate analysis of efe's godlike physique in form of those snippets of brazen homoerotic adulation are definitely not lacking in that department.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 17:27
by Boxtune
adislav123 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 14:58
you are spot on, not funny. not at all. not one bit.
on the other hand your continuing elaborate analysis of efe's godlike physique in form of those snippets of brazen homoerotic adulation are definitely not lacking in that department.
I couldn't eat any food for two days after watching this clip from 00:35
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 20:33
by Lackeos
This is an amazing match-up, both fighters are monsters. Sanchez is mostly a power dude, like a smaller version of Luis Ortiz. Ajagba got power too, but could use his height and reach if necessary. This match-up is almost reminiscent of Wilder - Luis Ortiz 1, but with neither fighters having as much good wins on their resumes. Whoever wins, I will regard that person as a very dangerous contender.
adislav123 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 14:58
you are spot on, not funny. not at all. not one bit.
on the other hand your continuing elaborate analysis of efe's godlike physique in form of those snippets of brazen homoerotic adulation are definitely not lacking in that department.
I couldn't eat any food for two days after watching this clip from 00:35
let's be honest, your pants get a bit tight when you see the gypsy king shirtless dont they
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 22:31
by KiwiRider
Lackeos wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 20:33
This is an amazing match-up, both fighters are monsters. Sanchez is mostly a power dude, like a smaller version of Luis Ortiz. Ajagba got power too, but could use his height and reach if necessary. This match-up is almost reminiscent of Wilder - Luis Ortiz 1, but with neither fighters having as much good wins on their resumes. Whoever wins, I will regard that person as a very dangerous contender.
Really?
They are both 3rd tier guys.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 22:47
by margaret thatcher
it will be a good win for the winner and rightfully elevate them, but wont make them some new monster in the division or an elite contender already
winner firms up a spot around the top 10-15 , and will be among the youngest contenders out there
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 22:59
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 22:47
it will be a good win for the winner and rightfully elevate them, but wont make them some new monster in the division or an elite contender already
winner firms up a spot around the top 10-15
Sounds about right. Winner is tail end of the top #15. Loser falls a long way off. I can fully see how both these guys are perceived as contenders. Most of that must be size based though.
Bigger ain't always better, with the exception of Tyson Fury.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 23:01
by margaret thatcher
this is a fight that should elevate the winner to contenderhood, i dont think either are contenders really at this point, more like late stage prospects. pretty much no one has really been seriously discussing them yet in a title fight or vs the big bois, they still need to make that leap to the next level and here's a chance
Lackeos wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 20:33
This is an amazing match-up, both fighters are monsters. Sanchez is mostly a power dude, like a smaller version of Luis Ortiz. Ajagba got power too, but could use his height and reach if necessary. This match-up is almost reminiscent of Wilder - Luis Ortiz 1, but with neither fighters having as much good wins on their resumes. Whoever wins, I will regard that person as a very dangerous contender.
Really?
They are both 3rd tier guys.
I'm not sure what your made-up tier system corresponds to in reality. But, the winner of this fight is going to be deserving of like a #11ish ranking and rising. So if that's what the 3rd tier is to you, then okay.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 21 Jun 2021, 06:02
by 530519
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 21 Jun 2021, 21:17
by margaret thatcher
530519 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:02
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
and he's really sexy too right bruh
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 21 Jun 2021, 21:19
by Jeff_lacy_ko
530519 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:02
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
What do you prefer
Efes abs
Andy ruiz legs
Or deontay wilders big sexy brain?
Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July
Posted: 21 Jun 2021, 21:23
by oogiebe
530519 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:02
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
Is that user name another "tune." Because the lyrics are quite familiar.
530519 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:02
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
Efes abs
Andy ruiz legs
f@cking hell mate, you're getting me all hot talking about that absolute studly combo of perfection
530519 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:02
Too many crap talk here ... Current crop of HWs are shit.
Efe will beat Sanchez and beats 80% of HWs in Top 4 to Top 15.
Is that user name another "tune." Because the lyrics are quite familiar.
They must be Tune Bots from my PC, i hope they multiply soon
It seems like someone’s got a little crush on Ajagba. 
