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H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 01:32 Whyte lost by ko two fights ago. He isn't able to demand any mandatory status or title shot. Cry me a river.

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:33

Boxtune wrote: ↑11 Jul 2021, 16:41

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2021, 12:05

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

Hey Doc. I bet you are feeling on top of the world after being compared to a real boxing expert. We are all so jealous.

Well, it would have been more frustrating, if someone else compared, but not him.

Yes I can see that

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 01:32 Whyte lost by ko two fights ago. He isn't able to demand any mandatory status or title shot. Cry me a river.

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 01:32 Whyte lost by ko two fights ago. He isn't able to demand any mandatory status or title shot. Cry me a river.

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

I remember Wilder telling Whyte if he beat Ortiz he would give him a shot at his belt. Whyte declined.

Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin and is scheduled to fight Jermaine Franklin in late August.

Franklin has been inactive for two years, and struggled against journeymen in his past two fights.

Bandog wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 11:31

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

I remember Wilder telling Whyte if he beat Ortiz he would give him a shot at his belt. Whyte declined.

Dillian Whyte is the most smart F$#ok pussy with Snake Hearn trying cash him out and some blinded UK fans
still keep sugar Coating him. Oscar Rivas had murdered him if Hearn didn't let him juice

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 12:04 Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin.

Are you saying that Charles Martin’s handlers have submitted an offer to Dillian Whyte that’s been rejected by the Brit?

I can’t find any evidence that this ever happened.

So I’d like to understand the justification for your claim?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 14:39Are you saying that Charles Martin’s handlers have submitted an offer to Dillian Whyte that’s been rejected by the Brit?

I can’t find any evidence that this ever happened.

So I’d like to understand the justification for your claim?

According to Hearn, it may still be possible, perhaps for later in the year.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 12:04 Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin and is scheduled to fight Jermaine Franklin in late August.

Franklin has been inactive for two years, and struggled against journeymen in his past two fights.

If this is true, would you blame Whyte?

Taking potentially risky fights hasn't done him any favours over the last 4 years, so he might as well do what the others do and sit on his ranking.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 14:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 14:39Are you saying that Charles Martin’s handlers have submitted an offer to Dillian Whyte that’s been rejected by the Brit?

I can’t find any evidence that this ever happened.

So I’d like to understand the justification for your claim?

According to Hearn, it may still be possible, perhaps for later in the year.

You said that Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin, but there isn’t even been an offer submitted by the American’s team for the Brit to reject.

Charles Martin wants to receive an offer from Dillian Whyte’s team, because he wants the payday.

The fact that Martin’s wishes haven’t been fulfilled doesn’t constitute a duck.

I once called out GGG and wanted to receive a $10m payday offer from his team to fight him.

But Gennadiy hasn’t contacted me yet.

If I applied your logic, then GGG is ducking me.

You surely must realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?

Remember, this is what you claimed:

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 12:04 Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 15:26..

When Charles Martin called him out, this was his twitter reply:

You said the following:

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 12:04Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin.

Nothing you’ve posted suggests that Dillian Whyte has rejected an offer submitted by Charles Martin’s team to fight him.

And you have not supplied any proof of Dillian Whyte being “scared” of Charles Martin to the point he's actually “ducked” or “ducking” the American.

And I don’t believe that fight fans are desperately clamouring to see Dillian Whyte face Charles Martin either.

It’s important to note that Dillian Whyte has already headlined several PPV events against the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker, Dereck Chisora, Oscar Rivas and Alexander Povetkin (twice).

‘The Body Snatcher’ is the biggest revenue generator at heavyweight outside of Fury, Joshua and perhaps Wilder (though the numbers suggest the Brit is a commercially “bigger” fighter than the Yank is).

Therefore, Charles Martin is desperate for a big payday. And he already knows that Fury, Wilder and Joshua are tied up for the foreseeable future, hence the reason why he’s calling out Dillian Whyte.

The American's social media antics are a desperate attempt to generate interest in a fight that no one currently wants to see. Charles Martin is essentially begging Matchroom to make him an offer.

Anyone that follows the sport of boxing will surely appreciate the fact that Dillian Whyte isn’t obliged to face Charles Martin. It probably won’t give him a big payday and it won’t enhance his resume either.

If the fight happens, then no one will care. And if Dillian Whyte beats Charles Martin, then the Brit will be accused of cherry-picking a weak opponent in order to engage in a borderline mismatch.

Whyte is just a pawn. He just there for a just in case and he's ok with he'll lose again before ever getting his shot.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 15:26

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 14:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 14:39Are you saying that Charles Martin’s handlers have submitted an offer to Dillian Whyte that’s been rejected by the Brit?

I can’t find any evidence that this ever happened.

So I’d like to understand the justification for your claim?

According to Hearn, it may still be possible, perhaps for later in the year.

You said that Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin, but there isn’t even been an offer submitted by the American’s team for the Brit to reject.

Charles Martin wants to receive an offer from Dillian Whyte’s team, because he wants the payday.

The fact that Martin’s wishes haven’t been fulfilled doesn’t constitute a duck.

I once called out GGG and wanted to receive a $10m payday offer from his team to fight him.

But Gennadiy hasn’t contacted me yet.

If I applied your logic, then GGG is ducking me.

You surely must realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?

Remember, this is what you claimed:

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 12:04 Dillian Whyte has avoided Charles Martin.

For once the Enlightened-One is right. Perhaps he just finished graduating highschool now.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 01:32 Whyte lost by ko two fights ago. He isn't able to demand any mandatory status or title shot. Cry me a river.

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

It may be the goal of fighters to f*ck the other guy over but in all other sports our expectation is that the regulatory body or bodies treat competitors fairly and apply their own rules consistently.

I know the WBC, WBA etc don't operate like that I'm not simple but that doesn't mean we just accept it and don't demand improvement. If we just accepted this is how things are we'd probably be living under the jackboot.

I was going to say that in my experience Americans are much more optimistic than you appear to be but it seems you are entirely satisfied with the way things are.

candyslim wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 05:28

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

It may be the goal of fighters to f*ck the other guy over but in all other sports our expectation is that the regulatory body or bodies treat competitors fairly and apply their own rules consistently.

I know the WBC, WBA etc don't operate like that I'm not simple but that doesn't mean we just accept it and don't demand improvement. If we just accepted this is how things are we'd probably be living under the jackboot.

I was going to say that in my experience Americans are much more optimistic than you appear to be but it seems you are entirely satisfied with the way things are.

You and your nonsense. So since you are british that means that I am American and anti british right? Wrong. But you expose where your diehard support for mr Whyte comes from. I hope that you aren't doubling down on being pathetic by basing this support both on nationality and race.

Sidenote earn 50$ € or even £'s if you prefer by guessing my nationality right on your second attempt.

Bandog wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 11:31

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

candyslim wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 03:47

That's what happens when you take risks against a succession of fighters that are considered to be on the same level as you. Occasionally you are going to come unstuck.

Your boy should try taking a risky fight. Oh that's right, he did didn't he? Just the once and his opponent treated him like a floor mop . . . just one fight ago.

Somehow though he still manages to run the show. That's what happens when you have the WBC mafia falling over themselves to protect you.

If you had any decency and a sense of fairplay (fat chance) you would concede that Whyte is a warrior who has been f*cked over every which way for a number of years by those corrupt c*nts.

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

I remember Wilder telling Whyte if he beat Ortiz he would give him a shot at his belt. Whyte declined.

Why would Dillian think he could trust Wilder to keep his word? I've seen videos of Dillian showing interviewers his phone where Wilder states he won't have to fight Dillian for at least two years.

If you took any notice of EO's response to you, you will have noticed that the WBC told Dillian he would have to fight Ortiz in an eliminator to become Wilder's second mandatory challenger. Second behind Breazeale, and given that Breazeale was going to be only Wilder's second mandatory in 5 years you can surely understand why Dillian told them where to stick it. He had already jumped through every hoop put in front of him yet the WBC broke their own rules to leapfrog Breazeale in front of Whyte.

Once Whyte calmed down, Eddie Hearn tried to negotiate a fight between Ortiz and Whyte anyway, but Ortiz made his excuses.

I get it that you're a Wilder fan, fair enough, but at least apply the same standards and expectations. Whyte has a better resume than Wilder despite Wilder having been WBC champion for 5 years. That's a shameful state of affairs.

You complain Whyte didn't fight Ortiz but have nothing to say about Wilder's 5 year reign fighting nobodies.

I'm a huge fan of Anthony Joshua but if he started making title defences against third rate opponents, while giving solid contenders the run around, then I would disown him.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 05:55

candyslim wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 05:28

H8Usernames wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 10:12

From a philosophical point of view this is interesting. The sport is boxing and the goal of it is to fck peeps over, why should the orgs not operate also in that spirit? And you are trying to say that anyone expects fairplay etc from these orgs? Those people must also still believe in santaclaus.

Decency / sense of fairplay.... I can see that I am talking to someone who hasn't learned the fact yet and probably never will that anything is fair. But if it isn't I am sure that someone like you can find his "justice" somehow.

As for my boy... that's like an incorrect assumption, no such person exists.

It may be the goal of fighters to f*ck the other guy over but in all other sports our expectation is that the regulatory body or bodies treat competitors fairly and apply their own rules consistently.

I know the WBC, WBA etc don't operate like that I'm not simple but that doesn't mean we just accept it and don't demand improvement. If we just accepted this is how things are we'd probably be living under the jackboot.

I was going to say that in my experience Americans are much more optimistic than you appear to be but it seems you are entirely satisfied with the way things are.

You and your nonsense. So since you are british that means that I am American and anti british right? Wrong. But you expose where your diehard support for mr Whyte comes from. I hope that you aren't doubling down on being pathetic by basing this support both on nationality and race.

Sidenote earn 50$ € or even £'s if you prefer by guessing my nationality right on your second attempt.

I didn't accuse you of being anti-British. I do tend to support my fellow countrymen but the biggest factor in my supporting a fighter is how ready he is to take on a challenge. This is why I have been a fan of Povetkin for a long time.

If a fighter is risk-averse then he won't be a favourite of mine whether he's from the street next to mine or from anywhere else on planet Earth.

As for race I'm white but I have more time for Joshua and Whyte than I do for Fury. That's not because Fury avoids tough fights I just find his mind-games unappealing. I like a fighter who says what he is going to do and just does it without the histrionics.

Put Whyte vs Ortiz on the undercard of Fury/Wilder. Ticket sales were only 25-30% when it was postponed. I hope they show proof of the covid tests. Fury was at a UFC facility a few days earlier. Not the first time TR did this. I predict they'll drag it out and try to get out of the fight so he can fight Joshua. Hope I'm wrong.

I want justice for Dillian Whyte, some overpampered fighter that has suffered two Ko losses during his career and raked in tens of millions of dollars. Give me a break.

Bandog wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 08:40 Put Whyte vs Ortiz on the undercard of Fury/Wilder. Ticket sales were only 25-30% when it was postponed. I hope they show proof of the covid tests. Fury was at a UFC facility a few days earlier. Not the first time TR did this. I predict they'll drag it out and try to get out of the fight so he can fight Joshua. Hope I'm wrong.

that would be great if he could get out of fighting a guy he just battered, and instead fought aj, good fight for boxing

H8Usernames wrote: ↑13 Jul 2021, 16:02 I want justice for Dillian Whyte, some overpampered fighter that has suffered two Ko losses during his career and raked in tens of millions of dollars. Give me a break.

There is too much money in boxing but nobody just gave it to Whyte, he has had to earn it. If it were that easy we'd all be earning a fortune.

Where he has been fortunate is his relationship with Matchroom and Sky but that wouldn't have happened had he not got the UK public onboard by providing exciting and ambitious fights.

It is an advantage that is not enjoyed by many other talented fighters. I mean take Hrgovic whose career has stalled as an example. Even as a Matchroom fighter he wouldn't enjoy massive UK public support, so he wouldn't become a big money attraction i.e. he is always going to be high risk, low reward. Whyte will never be champion but he can take solace in his savings account, no doubt.

Dillian Whyte has filed legal proceedings against the WBC to force them to allow him to challenge for their title.

If he’s successful, Fury will either have to face Dillian Whyte, or vacate his title to fulfil the terms of his rematch clause against Wilder.

Even though Fury is bigger than the WBC title, losing this belt devalues the AJ bout.

To be fair, interim titleholders are supposed to be elevated to becoming the full champion when the previous champ fails to defend their titles within the specified timeframe, as is the case with Fury.

i mean what's even the point of a guy being mandatory if it doesnt even lead to a shot, he's basically just been forking over sanctioning fees for nothing